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== Conversion figures for Novice and Journeyman ==
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Since lower ranks than Master can get RBCCPs through [[Ronza's Satchel]]s it would be nice to have those numbers here. ___[[User:M.|_m.]] 13:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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:True, but, on the other hand, would it be better to have a warning that those ranks shouldn't convert, since (I think?) they can't actually make good use of RB until they reach Master, hence they would be losing out by converting at a lower rank? Have I got that right? --[[User:Winelight|Winelight]] 21:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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==Mouse list==
 
==Mouse list==
 
I think it would be nice 'n' nifty to have a list of mice that drop the potions. Just a thought. [[User:M.|_m.]] 21:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 
I think it would be nice 'n' nifty to have a list of mice that drop the potions. Just a thought. [[User:M.|_m.]] 21:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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**But not tonight! (quote from Depeche Mode) :P ... ||||| happy hunting ||||| &nbsp;[[User:m.|m.]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:m.|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/m.|contr]]</sub>
 
**But not tonight! (quote from Depeche Mode) :P ... ||||| happy hunting ||||| &nbsp;[[User:m.|m.]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:m.|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/m.|contr]]</sub>
  
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== Figures for Converting Brie to RB ==
 
Just want to check that the new figures for Brie to RB are correct.
 
Just want to check that the new figures for Brie to RB are correct.
 
I'm hero and only getting 15--[[User:Amyarlp|Amyarlp]] 03:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 
I'm hero and only getting 15--[[User:Amyarlp|Amyarlp]] 03:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:Just checked and the number is wrong for Knight, too.  Made a temp change and will seek board input ASAP. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 03:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:Just checked and the number is wrong for Knight, too.  Made a temp change and will seek board input ASAP. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 03:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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::I believe the numbers are now accurate. A previous editor simply doubled the existing numbers, which wasn't quite accurate.  We're good now. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 04:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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:::Sorry my bad. I saw the numbers for Legendary went from 7 to 14 and the Dev announcement of a "doubling" of the amount so I assumed it was the same for the rest -_-. Apparently there's another underlying index and multiplier behind the figures. But its a little odd that with the 1/3 SB+ logic, Legendary gets 13.33 RB per standard potion. And in any case it is possible that the numbers for the Greater RB Potions are going to be a little off too. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 05:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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::::No big deal — it's fixed now. Devs said it doubled, so it was only logical to assume they actually meant it. LOL! The formula appears to be 1/3 SB+ #, rounded to next highest integer. I have already confirmed that the Greater #s are accurate, so we're good there. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 05:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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== Incorrect Values ==
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Right now there seems to be some bug affecting the correct conversion. Read [http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?app_id=10337532241&xid=mousehunt_tech_support&c_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&r_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&sig=1ba1c2fbcad432f0ab2b6277c0d61907&topic=3808 here] and [http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?xid=mousehunt_tech_support&app_id=10337532241&c_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&r_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&sig=1ba1c2fbcad432f0ab2b6277c0d61907&topic=3740 here]. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 09:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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:The first thread was just a mistake of the MHer - I fixed that for her ;) ... No clue about the second - maybe Mr. Rossow could explain his confirmation source and double check with "them". Happy hunting! ____[[User:M.|_m.]] 13:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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::The "sources" were myself and a few friends. Have messages in to some of them. I have no more GRB potion left (boohoo!!) so I cannot confirm personally. It appears to be a bug that needs squashing and I'm hoping the devs will address it soon. I hate to bother Dave but I'll post a tickle on his Talk page anyway. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 15:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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::: Add [http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?xid=mousehunt_strategy&app_id=10337532241&c_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&r_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&sig=0936ad0f294126dec6eedd6539607b9b&topic=30946&post=370943#post370943 this thread] to the mix of anecdotal info as well. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 15:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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== Improved Writeup on where to find the potions ==
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Page needs to be clearer on where to find the various potions, especially with regards to potions in the Mousoleum, in which apparently only Vampire Mice drop GRB and no other mice drop potions in there, except maybe Black Widows (not fact checked). Appreciate if someone can do an improved writeup. Confusion over text was noted [http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?xid=mousehunt_strategy&app_id=10337532241&c_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&r_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&sig=0936ad0f294126dec6eedd6539607b9b&topic=33267 here]-- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 17:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
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:Made a quick edit: anything is better than the text that caused confusion. [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 06:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
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::Gave it a try, hope you like it... ____[[User:M.|_m.]] 19:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
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== Conversion ratio ==
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I just saw someone on the forums confused about this page, thinking Masters get 30 RB out of 1 SB+, etc. Here's a quote: "The wiki doesn't really spell out that it is a 1-to-1 conversion. It tells you how many #RB Converted (so without the information that's not there I figured you're using 1 brie/SB+ with each potion)." Not sure how to make it clear it takes 30 to make 30. [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 20:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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:Added an example, that should clarify things. Also added a suggested strategy for converting potions. Additionally, the table could do with a minor revamp to separate the 3 potion types into their own distinct tables under their own headings and with an added TOC to allow for easy page navigation. Again, I'll get to it when I have the time, unless someone else gets it completed in the meantime :) -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 05:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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::Done. Potions moved to their own headings. Cheers! [[User:Shinnok|Shinnok]] 05:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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:::Thanks for the help Shinnook! I've touched up the tables somewhat and shifted the drop locations to the right, similar to the tables in [[Crafted cheese]]. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 07:12, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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::::Aha. Does look prettier now! Good job! [[User:Shinnok|Shinnok]] 08:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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==Information on conversion==
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Need someone to confirm (and update the potions page) that you are able to proceed with conversion even if you don't have enough cheese. You don't actually need to convert, just to check the message shown. What set me thinking was [http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?app_id=10337532241&xid=mousehunt_tech_support&c_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&r_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&sig=1ba1c2fbcad432f0ab2b6277c0d61907&topic=4258 this post]. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 18:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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:This is correct - If your potion converts 30 SB+ and you only have say, 10 pieces then using a single potion will convert those only those 10 pieces. This sort of 'wastes' two-thirds of the potion however. --[[User:Dave Vanderburg|Dave Vanderburg]] 15:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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::Always nice to get direct information from you Dave, saves a lot of hassle ;) I'll get it worded in. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 16:38, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
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==Drop Rate==
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Has the drop rate of RB potions been changed?--[[User:Stinson|Tmm stinson]] 03:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
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:There's no way to know if they've changed. The drop rates listed are those provided by devs in October 2008. It wouldn't make much sense for them to change; devs previously said they generally don't go back and tweak things, although there are exceptions to that... *shrug* -- [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 15:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
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== Potion conversion rates ==
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I am a Lady and have the Greater RB potion, so I can personally verify that the numbers in the Wiki match my numbers. If the numbers are wrong, then they are wrong in the game, not in the Wiki. -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 15:35, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:35, 15 June 2010

Conversion figures for Novice and Journeyman

Since lower ranks than Master can get RBCCPs through Ronza's Satchels it would be nice to have those numbers here. ____m. 13:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

True, but, on the other hand, would it be better to have a warning that those ranks shouldn't convert, since (I think?) they can't actually make good use of RB until they reach Master, hence they would be losing out by converting at a lower rank? Have I got that right? --Winelight 21:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Mouse list

I think it would be nice 'n' nifty to have a list of mice that drop the potions. Just a thought. _m. 21:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Go for it. :-) -- B.Rossow talkcontr 21:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
    • But not tonight! (quote from Depeche Mode) :P ... ||||| happy hunting |||||  m. talkcontr

Figures for Converting Brie to RB

Just want to check that the new figures for Brie to RB are correct. I'm hero and only getting 15--Amyarlp 03:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Just checked and the number is wrong for Knight, too. Made a temp change and will seek board input ASAP. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 03:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I believe the numbers are now accurate. A previous editor simply doubled the existing numbers, which wasn't quite accurate. We're good now. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 04:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry my bad. I saw the numbers for Legendary went from 7 to 14 and the Dev announcement of a "doubling" of the amount so I assumed it was the same for the rest -_-. Apparently there's another underlying index and multiplier behind the figures. But its a little odd that with the 1/3 SB+ logic, Legendary gets 13.33 RB per standard potion. And in any case it is possible that the numbers for the Greater RB Potions are going to be a little off too. -- Grexx 05:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
No big deal — it's fixed now. Devs said it doubled, so it was only logical to assume they actually meant it. LOL! The formula appears to be 1/3 SB+ #, rounded to next highest integer. I have already confirmed that the Greater #s are accurate, so we're good there. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 05:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect Values

Right now there seems to be some bug affecting the correct conversion. Read here and here. -- Grexx 09:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

The first thread was just a mistake of the MHer - I fixed that for her ;) ... No clue about the second - maybe Mr. Rossow could explain his confirmation source and double check with "them". Happy hunting! _____m. 13:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
The "sources" were myself and a few friends. Have messages in to some of them. I have no more GRB potion left (boohoo!!) so I cannot confirm personally. It appears to be a bug that needs squashing and I'm hoping the devs will address it soon. I hate to bother Dave but I'll post a tickle on his Talk page anyway. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 15:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Add this thread to the mix of anecdotal info as well. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 15:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Improved Writeup on where to find the potions

Page needs to be clearer on where to find the various potions, especially with regards to potions in the Mousoleum, in which apparently only Vampire Mice drop GRB and no other mice drop potions in there, except maybe Black Widows (not fact checked). Appreciate if someone can do an improved writeup. Confusion over text was noted here-- Grexx 17:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Made a quick edit: anything is better than the text that caused confusion. Camomiletea 06:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Gave it a try, hope you like it... _____m. 19:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Conversion ratio

I just saw someone on the forums confused about this page, thinking Masters get 30 RB out of 1 SB+, etc. Here's a quote: "The wiki doesn't really spell out that it is a 1-to-1 conversion. It tells you how many #RB Converted (so without the information that's not there I figured you're using 1 brie/SB+ with each potion)." Not sure how to make it clear it takes 30 to make 30. Camomiletea 20:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Added an example, that should clarify things. Also added a suggested strategy for converting potions. Additionally, the table could do with a minor revamp to separate the 3 potion types into their own distinct tables under their own headings and with an added TOC to allow for easy page navigation. Again, I'll get to it when I have the time, unless someone else gets it completed in the meantime :) -- Grexx 05:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Done. Potions moved to their own headings. Cheers! Shinnok 05:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the help Shinnook! I've touched up the tables somewhat and shifted the drop locations to the right, similar to the tables in Crafted cheese. -- Grexx 07:12, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Aha. Does look prettier now! Good job! Shinnok 08:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Information on conversion

Need someone to confirm (and update the potions page) that you are able to proceed with conversion even if you don't have enough cheese. You don't actually need to convert, just to check the message shown. What set me thinking was this post. -- Grexx 18:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

This is correct - If your potion converts 30 SB+ and you only have say, 10 pieces then using a single potion will convert those only those 10 pieces. This sort of 'wastes' two-thirds of the potion however. --Dave Vanderburg 15:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Always nice to get direct information from you Dave, saves a lot of hassle ;) I'll get it worded in. -- Grexx 16:38, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Drop Rate

Has the drop rate of RB potions been changed?--Tmm stinson 03:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

There's no way to know if they've changed. The drop rates listed are those provided by devs in October 2008. It wouldn't make much sense for them to change; devs previously said they generally don't go back and tweak things, although there are exceptions to that... *shrug* -- Camomiletea 15:29, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Potion conversion rates

I am a Lady and have the Greater RB potion, so I can personally verify that the numbers in the Wiki match my numbers. If the numbers are wrong, then they are wrong in the game, not in the Wiki. -- camomiletea 15:35, 15 June 2010 (UTC)