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| + | At some point don't you think there should be a requirement to cite sources for these supposed myths? What's to stop ''anyone'' from adding ''anything'' and claiming it's legit? With rare exceptions (e.g. the [[Salt Mines]]) I have a real problem with devoting any space to these jokes, hoaxes, etc. Purportedly the reason is to provide newbies or otherwise gullible hunters with info saying it's a hoax, but wouldn't it be much simpler, more manageable both short- and long-term, and frankly more professional to simply have a statement posted prominently on the main page -- or even as the near-sole content of this page -- stating that if something isn't found in the MHWiki then it can be assumed to be a joke / hoax / whatever? Food for thought.... -- [[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]] <sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 05:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
| + | *I've come to terms with this article being a dumping ground for crackpot theories, as long as they're restricted to this article. I'd noticed you'd added the Salt Mines to the "Hoaxes" Category... thing is, the Salt Mines isn't fan-made ''anymore''. It ''was'' a hoax, before the reference in the Ionized Salt description made it official. I've started a topic on this in the Salt Mines discussion page. The article has a legitimate reason to exist now, but the entire page needs to be turned on its head so the main focus is on the factual information and not the fictional. [[User:Revengeance|Revengeance]] 17:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== Continuation of [[Talk:Salt Mines|Salt Mines talk page]] == | == Continuation of [[Talk:Salt Mines|Salt Mines talk page]] == | ||
Continuing with what I had said earlier on the talk page linked above, I don't think there should be individual articles about fan-made myths/jokes ([[Bulgarian Bread Feast Trap]]). Also, I'm assuming from Giorgio's comment on [[User talk:98.235.114.55|this talk page]], he means that anything fan-based should not have an individual article, not just locations. Personally, I think one page about myths is okay, but I can't really say much since I'm not an administrator or a developer. --[[User:Peter888|Peter888]] 00:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC) | Continuing with what I had said earlier on the talk page linked above, I don't think there should be individual articles about fan-made myths/jokes ([[Bulgarian Bread Feast Trap]]). Also, I'm assuming from Giorgio's comment on [[User talk:98.235.114.55|this talk page]], he means that anything fan-based should not have an individual article, not just locations. Personally, I think one page about myths is okay, but I can't really say much since I'm not an administrator or a developer. --[[User:Peter888|Peter888]] 00:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
| − | :You could still have those individual pages up... but simply create a tag for them {{myth}} that puts a note up that this is a user-created myth and is not actually available in-game. [[User:Daworm|Daworm]] 01:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC) | + | :You could still have those individual pages up... but simply create a tag for them <nowiki>{{myth}}</nowiki> that puts a note up that this is a user-created myth and is not actually available in-game. [[User:Daworm|Daworm]] 01:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC) |
Re: Dave's comment about the cheese bank - if you put your gold into cheddar, and don't bait your trap with it, the mice can't nick it, can they? I've found the cheddar bank thing quite handy. You just make sure store cheddar which you never use in the higer level areas. Problem solved (ish). | Re: Dave's comment about the cheese bank - if you put your gold into cheddar, and don't bait your trap with it, the mice can't nick it, can they? I've found the cheddar bank thing quite handy. You just make sure store cheddar which you never use in the higer level areas. Problem solved (ish). | ||
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:This accomplishes nothing - If you have no gold they steal the cheese '''baited on your trap'''. This means they steal expensive cheese instead of your cheddar that you have banked. Keeping in mind that the number of pieces are rounded up based on how much gold they would of stolen it means they steal more gold worth of cheese than they would of actually stolen in gold. I'm a game developer and personally coded this part of the game - Trust me, you're worse off. --[[User:Dave Vanderburg|Dave Vanderburg]] 18:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC) | :This accomplishes nothing - If you have no gold they steal the cheese '''baited on your trap'''. This means they steal expensive cheese instead of your cheddar that you have banked. Keeping in mind that the number of pieces are rounded up based on how much gold they would of stolen it means they steal more gold worth of cheese than they would of actually stolen in gold. I'm a game developer and personally coded this part of the game - Trust me, you're worse off. --[[User:Dave Vanderburg|Dave Vanderburg]] 18:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
| − | : | + | ::Which cheese to gold conversion rate is used? If you're hunting in the Burroughs (with cheddar baited) would a mouse who would have stolen 100 gold instead steal 10 pieces of cheddar (according to the price in Gnawnia), or 5 pieces (according to the price in Digby)? |
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| + | :::The cheese in the Town of Digby Cheese Shoppe is inflated. Therefore, mice will steal cheese for its "default" worth in gold. --[[User:Giorgio Sintichakis|Giorgio Sintichakis]] 22:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | Okay Dave, I suppose it is kind of daft for me to argue this point with you when you set this part of the game up. I'm just trying to work out how to tell all my trainee hunters that their sensei got it wrong. LOL | ||
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| + | Doesn't this only apply to Cheddar, Marble, Swiss, Brie, Gouda and Moon cheeses? Just want to check out before I edit anything. [[User:Draobyek|Draobyek]] 00:24, 20 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
| + | :I suppose this would affect any cheese than can get extra pieces stolen. What do you feel needs editing? --[[User:Hyperchao|Hyperchao]] 03:22, 20 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::The section talks only about cheese in general, rather than the specific cheeses that cannot be stolen. I'd put a list of which cheeses can, however I'm not 100% sure I have every cheese listed that can be stolen en-mass. [[User:Draobyek|Draobyek]] 22:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 22:23, 20 March 2010
Citing sources?
At some point don't you think there should be a requirement to cite sources for these supposed myths? What's to stop anyone from adding anything and claiming it's legit? With rare exceptions (e.g. the Salt Mines) I have a real problem with devoting any space to these jokes, hoaxes, etc. Purportedly the reason is to provide newbies or otherwise gullible hunters with info saying it's a hoax, but wouldn't it be much simpler, more manageable both short- and long-term, and frankly more professional to simply have a statement posted prominently on the main page -- or even as the near-sole content of this page -- stating that if something isn't found in the MHWiki then it can be assumed to be a joke / hoax / whatever? Food for thought.... -- B.Rossow talkcontr 05:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've come to terms with this article being a dumping ground for crackpot theories, as long as they're restricted to this article. I'd noticed you'd added the Salt Mines to the "Hoaxes" Category... thing is, the Salt Mines isn't fan-made anymore. It was a hoax, before the reference in the Ionized Salt description made it official. I've started a topic on this in the Salt Mines discussion page. The article has a legitimate reason to exist now, but the entire page needs to be turned on its head so the main focus is on the factual information and not the fictional. Revengeance 17:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Continuation of Salt Mines talk page
Continuing with what I had said earlier on the talk page linked above, I don't think there should be individual articles about fan-made myths/jokes (Bulgarian Bread Feast Trap). Also, I'm assuming from Giorgio's comment on this talk page, he means that anything fan-based should not have an individual article, not just locations. Personally, I think one page about myths is okay, but I can't really say much since I'm not an administrator or a developer. --Peter888 00:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- You could still have those individual pages up... but simply create a tag for them {{myth}} that puts a note up that this is a user-created myth and is not actually available in-game. Daworm 01:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Re: Dave's comment about the cheese bank - if you put your gold into cheddar, and don't bait your trap with it, the mice can't nick it, can they? I've found the cheddar bank thing quite handy. You just make sure store cheddar which you never use in the higer level areas. Problem solved (ish).
- This accomplishes nothing - If you have no gold they steal the cheese baited on your trap. This means they steal expensive cheese instead of your cheddar that you have banked. Keeping in mind that the number of pieces are rounded up based on how much gold they would of stolen it means they steal more gold worth of cheese than they would of actually stolen in gold. I'm a game developer and personally coded this part of the game - Trust me, you're worse off. --Dave Vanderburg 18:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Which cheese to gold conversion rate is used? If you're hunting in the Burroughs (with cheddar baited) would a mouse who would have stolen 100 gold instead steal 10 pieces of cheddar (according to the price in Gnawnia), or 5 pieces (according to the price in Digby)?
- The cheese in the Town of Digby Cheese Shoppe is inflated. Therefore, mice will steal cheese for its "default" worth in gold. --Giorgio Sintichakis 22:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay Dave, I suppose it is kind of daft for me to argue this point with you when you set this part of the game up. I'm just trying to work out how to tell all my trainee hunters that their sensei got it wrong. LOL
Purchasing a large amount of cheese to keep gold 'safe'
Doesn't this only apply to Cheddar, Marble, Swiss, Brie, Gouda and Moon cheeses? Just want to check out before I edit anything. Draobyek 00:24, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- I suppose this would affect any cheese than can get extra pieces stolen. What do you feel needs editing? --Hyperchao 03:22, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- The section talks only about cheese in general, rather than the specific cheeses that cannot be stolen. I'd put a list of which cheeses can, however I'm not 100% sure I have every cheese listed that can be stolen en-mass. Draobyek 22:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
