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== Travel Prudence ==
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== Travel Table Internal Layout ==
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The table is now laid out into 5 rows in the following format:
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* Location name (column 1)
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* Gnawnia costs (columns 2 to 5)
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* Burroughs costs (columns 6 to 9)
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* Furoma costs (columns 10 to 13)
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* Bristle Woods costs (columns 14 to 16)
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-- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 18:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
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== Special Locations ==
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Do we want to include a separate table for Ronza, the Festive Comet, and other sundry locations that do not remain available all the time? 
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[[User:Bullfrog117|Bullfrog117]] 00:08, 5 December 2009 (PST)
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I got bored waiting for an answer ;-D
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Town of Gnawnia
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Festive Comet -> Town of Gnawnia = 0 gold
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-> Meadow = 1,078 gold
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-> Harbour = 856 gold
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-> Mountain = 1,915 gold
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Since it always costs nothing to go back to Gnawnia town, one should never pay more than the Gnawnia traveling cost.  Thus, (based on these figures) anyone who goes from Digby town to the Meadow, the Laboratory to the Harbor, or almost anywhere to the Mountain is either ill-informed or dumb.
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Whisker Woods
  
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-> Calm Clearing = 1,576 gold
  
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--[[User:Jpsanggaran|Jpsanggaran]] 03:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
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-> Great Gnarled Tree = 4,326 gold
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I don't get this comment. Whilst it is true that it costs nothing to go from anywhere to the gnawnia, it is not true that to go to gnawnia then on to any destination is cheaper. Case in point the example used above laboratory to harbour direct costs 1161 where as to go from the lab to gnawnia then on to the harbour cost 1448, that is 287 gold cheaper to go directly there.
 
  
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I mean the reason I put this chart togeather is so people could work these things out and find the cheapest route from where they are to where they are headed, I think it ill informed to assume that the gnawnia travel cost is the only one that you should consider.
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-> Lagoon = 3,231 gold
  
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::The reason you don't get the comment is that the figures displayed were different on the date the comment was posted.[[Special:Contributions/69.108.230.204|69.108.230.204]] 05:07, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 
  
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* weird...the data sheey I have has the same values as the current chart, except for gnawnia to digby at 921 instead of 920. when the chart was formated into it's current pretty format I guess someone might of inadvertantly changed a value--[[User:Jpsanggaran|Jpsanggaran]] 11:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
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Burroughs
  
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*The best, and currently only way I can see to save money (now that Ronza is gone) is in the specific case if you are traveling to the Mountain.  It is usually cheaper to go to town first, then on to the mountain. --[[User:Sokolok|Sokolok]] 13:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
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-> Laboratory = 3,591 gold
  
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==Lol Look at the highest price on travel NOW==
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-> Town Of Digby = 759 gold
  
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3,634. Thats it. Us old time hunters remember when the lab was like 6 times that!
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-> Mousoleum = 2,842 gold
  
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== Change in travel costs with Bristle Woods ==
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-> Bazaar = 1,591 gold
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I've noticed further change in the travel cost from Training Grounds to the Mousoleum. Seems like a bit more has changed. Please assist in updating. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 21:28, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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:I updated travel costs from Dojo - lots of changes! [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 21:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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Today's travelling costs:
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Furoma
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:I traveled from the Bazaar and have arrived at the Mousoleum. The cost of the journey was 993 gold (this is more expensive now)
 
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:I traveled from the Mousoleum and have arrived at the Laboratory. The cost of the journey was 3,177 gold (but this is cheaper!)
 
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:I traveled from the Meditation Room and have arrived at the Bazaar. The cost of the journey was 1,237 gold (far more expensive!)--[[User:Fleurione|Fleurione]] 22:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC) (Leg)
 
  
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::As much as possible, please update the whole swathe of travel costs up to the highest area that you are currently able to reach. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 22:46, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
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-> Training Grounds = 3,838 gold
  
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:What still needs to be updated?  Could we maybe italicize the numbers which are new or known to be the same, until we've fixed everything?  Also note that you can see the cost without actually moving if you click on the area on the travel page, but then don't select "hunt here." -- [[User:Pakaran|Pakaran]] 23:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
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-> Dojo = 2,756 gold
  
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::So far it seems travel costs from Dojo, Catacombs, Training Grounds, and Pinnacle Chamber have been updated. And a couple one Fleurione mentioned. [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 23:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
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-> Meditation Room = 2,754 gold
  
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:::Like to say thanks to Laurenb for updating all the rest of the travel costs so quickly :) -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 06:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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-> Pinnacle Chamber = 2,754 gold
  
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== Costs for Forbidden Grove and Acolyte Realm ==
 
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I thought I'd start collecting the costs for travelling '''to''' or '''from''' the [[Forbidden Grove|FG]] and '''from''' the [[Acolyte Realm|AR]]. Any help is more than welcome.... ____[[User:M.|_m.]] 17:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 
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*FG from Caz: 350
 
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*FG to Caz: 820
 
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*FG from Bazaar: 1,259
 
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*FG to Bazaar: 1,279
 
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*FG to MedRoom: 610
 
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*FG from MedRoom: 615
 
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*FG to PinCham: 634
 
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*FG to Moz: 988
 
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*FG from Gnawnia: 2,929
 
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*FG from AR: 655
 
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*AR to Caz: 1,266
 
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*AR to FG: 655
 
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*AR to Bazaar: 1,699
 
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*AR to TG: 870
 
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tbc.
 
  
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:Almost forgot about this page lol. I'll add the table column and rows in. With that in, it usually gets filled in quite fast. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 17:38, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
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Bristle Woods
  
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::I believe you can remove the last column since the AR is not a destination on it's own... ;] ____[[User:M.|_m.]] 18:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
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-> Catacombs = 3,194 gold
  
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:::Hmm the question is, can they leave the place? And is the travel cost different? If they can at least leave the place, we should just put '-' into the spaces. The table needs to be symmetrical to make sense. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 18:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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== Travel Table Internal Layout ==
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Rodentia
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The table is now laid out into 5 rows in the following format:
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* Location name (column 1)
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-> S.S. Huntington II = 7,346 gold
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* Gnawnia costs (columns 2 to 5)
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* Burroughs costs (columns 6 to 9)
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* Furoma costs (columns 10 to 13)
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Tribal Isles
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* Bristle Woods costs (columns 14 to 16)
 
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-- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 18:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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== Whisker Woods Travel Prices ==
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-> Cape Clawed = 4,443 gold
  
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Are we sure they're right? They seem somewhat off - it doesn't make sense that it's cheaper from Clearing to Lab than from Meadow - just looking at the map shows you that the meadow's closer (same goes for harbour --> clearing opposed to meadow --> clearing)
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-> Elub Shore = 5,160 gold
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-- [[User:Slanzinger|Slanzinger]] 13:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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:Just went through and verified Travel prices from Calm Clearing (not to Calm Clearing because I'm not ready to leave yet). Forbidden Grove is currently closed, but other than that all the amounts are right. It doesn't have to make sense based on location. Also the amount from Harbour to Clearing is correct. -- [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 14:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
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-> Nerg Plains = 5,454 gold
  
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== S.S. Huntington II ==
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-> Derr Dunes = 5,177 gold
  
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S.S.  Huntington II column should be the last one in the table. That's how it's sorted on the Travel page. I'm going to input the values for travel FROM S.S. Huntington, but could someone else fix the column, please afterwards? Thanks.
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-> Jungle Of Dread = 5,969 gold
  
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-> Dracano = 6,271 gold
  
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region:
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[[User:Bullfrog117|Bullfrog117]] 00:25, 5 December 2009 (PST)
  
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    * Gnawnia
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: Catz >>> Comet = 2,794 gold ..... ____[[User:M.|_m.]] 00:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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    * Whisker Woods
 
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    * Burroughs
 
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    * Furoma
 
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    * Bristle Woods
 
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    * Rodentia
 
  
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location:
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:: Re-raising this question - do we want to temporarily add a row and column for [[Haunted Terrortories]]? --&nbsp;<span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;">[[User:Ericb|ericb]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Ericb|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ericb|contr]]</sub></span> 11:56, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
  
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:::Interestingly, the original proposal was to add a separate table. It seems like too much work to add column and row to the existing table and then have to take it out again when the event is over, but adding a separate table sounds good to me. -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 12:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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          o Town of Gnawnia
 
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          o Meadow
 
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          o Harbour
 
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          o Mountain
 
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          o Calm Clearing
 
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          o Great Gnarled Tree
 
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          o Lagoon
 
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          o Laboratory
 
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          o Town of Digby
 
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          o Mousoleum
 
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          o Bazaar
 
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          o Training Grounds
 
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          o Dojo
 
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          o Meditation Room
 
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          o Pinnacle Chamber
 
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          o Catacombs
 
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          o Forbidden Grove
 
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          o Acolyte Realm
 
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          o S.S. Huntington II
 
  
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-- [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 01:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Larry's Travel ==
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It would be good to mention how many times (unlimited?) that the travel can be used per day. Also, traveling to Town of Gnawnia using normal travel is not free, so should be advised against, but I haven't had the chance to confirm this. [[User:Grexx|-- Grexx]] 09:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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:I've not tried finding out the limit to Larry's Travel. However, Larry's Travel may lead to other locations, so as quoted from the first news post:
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:''There is also a Larry's Travel section on the travel page to take you to locations free of cost! Currently it takes you to the Town of Gnawnia for free!''
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:Keywords being ''locations'' and ''currently'' which suggests, it may lead elsewhere in the future. [[User:Draobyek|Draobyek]] 11:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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:Another strategy that might be listed is that if you want to travel somewhere that's closer to Town of Gnawnia, don't take the direct route, but travel using Larry's Travel to ToG and then it's cheaper to go to your desired location. -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 16:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
  
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:I fixed it. -- [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 14:41, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
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::Would it be worth making a notation on all direct travel costs that are more expensive than the counterpart of using Larry's travel first?  I'm thinking of shading those cells, so that there is a quick visual distinction of whether a direct price is also the cheapest.  For example,
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{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="6" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border-width:1px; border-color:#aaaaaa; border-collapse:collapse; line-height:1.0;"
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|-
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! <font color="#800000">Departure<br />▼</font>
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! width="60" | [[Meadow]]
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! width="60" | [[Town of Gnawnia]]
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! width="60" | [[Windmill]]
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|-
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! align="left" | <font color="#800000">Meadow</font>
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| — || 10 || 260
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|-
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! align="left" | <font color="#800000">Town of Gnawnia</font>
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| bgcolor="#dd4444" | 10 || — || 250
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|-
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! align="left" | <font color="#800000">Windmill</font>
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| bgcolor="#dd4444" | 260 || bgcolor="#dd4444" | 250 || —
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|}
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::What do you think? --&nbsp;<span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;">[[User:Ericb|ericb]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Ericb|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ericb|contr]]</sub></span> 12:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
  
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:::I like this idea, although not that particular color, hehe. -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 12:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
  
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== Dracano ==
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::::Good idea, but depending on how the travel costs turn out, it might be a better idea to shade travel spots where direct travel is ''less'' expensive.
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I don't think we have the Nerg to Dracano cost on the table yet?
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::::You'll also need to consider if it'll make the travel chart difficult to read, since it might end up being a checkered pattern giving half the people reading it sore eyes :D Consider also whether to continue using the alternate line shading. [[User:Grexx|-- Grexx]] 13:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
  
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23:03 yesterday
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:::::I'm currently thinking that color-only is bad for blind readers. And you are right that there are probably fewer cheapest direct routes in comparison to routes where Larry's travel makes sense. So I'm instead going with a '*' mark on cheapest routes; see the start of my efforts: [[User:Ericb/Sandbox]] --&nbsp;<span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;">[[User:Ericb|ericb]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Ericb|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ericb|contr]]</sub></span> 16:51, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
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I traveled from the Dracano and have arrived at the Nerg Plains. The cost of the journey was 1,521 gold.
 
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22:25 yesterday
 
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I traveled from the Nerg Plains and have arrived at the Dracano. The cost of the journey was 3,521 gold.
 
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[[User:WyndStryke|WyndStryke]] 07:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 16:51, 16 November 2010

Travel Table Internal Layout

The table is now laid out into 5 rows in the following format:

  • Location name (column 1)
  • Gnawnia costs (columns 2 to 5)
  • Burroughs costs (columns 6 to 9)
  • Furoma costs (columns 10 to 13)
  • Bristle Woods costs (columns 14 to 16)

-- Grexx 18:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Special Locations

Do we want to include a separate table for Ronza, the Festive Comet, and other sundry locations that do not remain available all the time? Bullfrog117 00:08, 5 December 2009 (PST)

I got bored waiting for an answer ;-D


Town of Gnawnia

Festive Comet -> Town of Gnawnia = 0 gold

-> Meadow = 1,078 gold

-> Harbour = 856 gold

-> Mountain = 1,915 gold


Whisker Woods

-> Calm Clearing = 1,576 gold

-> Great Gnarled Tree = 4,326 gold

-> Lagoon = 3,231 gold


Burroughs

-> Laboratory = 3,591 gold

-> Town Of Digby = 759 gold

-> Mousoleum = 2,842 gold

-> Bazaar = 1,591 gold


Furoma

-> Training Grounds = 3,838 gold

-> Dojo = 2,756 gold

-> Meditation Room = 2,754 gold

-> Pinnacle Chamber = 2,754 gold


Bristle Woods

-> Catacombs = 3,194 gold


Rodentia

-> S.S. Huntington II = 7,346 gold


Tribal Isles

-> Cape Clawed = 4,443 gold

-> Elub Shore = 5,160 gold

-> Nerg Plains = 5,454 gold

-> Derr Dunes = 5,177 gold

-> Jungle Of Dread = 5,969 gold

-> Dracano = 6,271 gold

Bullfrog117 00:25, 5 December 2009 (PST)

Catz >>> Comet = 2,794 gold ..... _____m. 00:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Re-raising this question - do we want to temporarily add a row and column for Haunted Terrortories? -- ericb talkcontr 11:56, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Interestingly, the original proposal was to add a separate table. It seems like too much work to add column and row to the existing table and then have to take it out again when the event is over, but adding a separate table sounds good to me. -- camomiletea 12:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Larry's Travel

It would be good to mention how many times (unlimited?) that the travel can be used per day. Also, traveling to Town of Gnawnia using normal travel is not free, so should be advised against, but I haven't had the chance to confirm this. -- Grexx 09:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

I've not tried finding out the limit to Larry's Travel. However, Larry's Travel may lead to other locations, so as quoted from the first news post:
There is also a Larry's Travel section on the travel page to take you to locations free of cost! Currently it takes you to the Town of Gnawnia for free!
Keywords being locations and currently which suggests, it may lead elsewhere in the future. Draobyek 11:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Another strategy that might be listed is that if you want to travel somewhere that's closer to Town of Gnawnia, don't take the direct route, but travel using Larry's Travel to ToG and then it's cheaper to go to your desired location. -- camomiletea 16:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Would it be worth making a notation on all direct travel costs that are more expensive than the counterpart of using Larry's travel first? I'm thinking of shading those cells, so that there is a quick visual distinction of whether a direct price is also the cheapest. For example,
Departure
▼ 		Meadow Town of Gnawnia Windmill
Meadow — 10 260
Town of Gnawnia 10 — 250
Windmill 260 250 —
What do you think? -- ericb talkcontr 12:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I like this idea, although not that particular color, hehe. -- camomiletea 12:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Good idea, but depending on how the travel costs turn out, it might be a better idea to shade travel spots where direct travel is less expensive.
You'll also need to consider if it'll make the travel chart difficult to read, since it might end up being a checkered pattern giving half the people reading it sore eyes :D Consider also whether to continue using the alternate line shading. -- Grexx 13:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm currently thinking that color-only is bad for blind readers. And you are right that there are probably fewer cheapest direct routes in comparison to routes where Larry's travel makes sense. So I'm instead going with a '*' mark on cheapest routes; see the start of my efforts: User:Ericb/Sandbox -- ericb talkcontr 16:51, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
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