Talk:Shelder Mouse

Bait Preference

Is there a bait preference for this? I saw someone with 6 Shelders and 8 Bottled Mice, but the overall numbers for Shelder are much much lower in comparison to Bottled (I have 9 Bottled and 0 Shelder). So was this one guy just insanely lucky, is there some special strategy to catching Shelders, or was the chance of catching a Shelder significantly higher when SSH2 was first released? I'm guessing the former, but if it is the middle option, I'd love to know the strategy. --Dreamwalker 15:48, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you ask the person directly? At the very least, a link to the hunter profile would be nice. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 16:27, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I had to do something in the real world and didn't think to bookmark the page or anything at the time. But I asked in the forums, and it appears it is just luck... not the stat, but the actual thing. =P Oh well. I could hope. --Dreamwalker 00:22, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Just checking for opinions on this, results to our survey have shown a higher population of Shelders with Gouda, we're at 97.68% confidence compared to Brie on this since we started the database in September, and 98.32% confidence if I include the results we received before that, do people think this is good enough for a bait preference to be added? -- Twentypence 12:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

The developers did mention that there was a hidden use to Gouda. However it was mentioned as a mainland use, so it is a little hard to say either ways, but if you're confident of the data then why not. Do update the Gouda row in Cheese#Gouda if you do add it in as a preferred cheese for Shelder to keep things consistent. -- Grexx 17:34, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I've added it now to the Shelder, and the Mermaid (which has a much higher confidence), I've added a line in Cheese#Gouda, but please feel free to edit for grammatical consistency. -- Twentypence 08:33, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

See this link in the Forum Post 13 which suggests that SB+ works better than Gouda. -- Ralphminer 20:01, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Confidence way too low on that to say for certain, if there is now a preference for SB+ its very recent, overall results (which include tens of thousands of hunts rather than seven hundred odd used for SB+ in the post) still show Gouda is better. -- Twentypence 05:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

If this is the conclusion, I think there is no need for a lengthy explanation why Gouda is not preferred. Simply remove the preference indication and leave that discussion here on the Talk page for anyone who wants to investigate further. --Hyperchao 17:06, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

[followup] Ah. For some reason I assumed today's update was a direct result of this thread. I'll let those with catch rate numbers resolve this one. --Hyperchao 18:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

To have a base to start off with, it is clear that majority of players at SSH2 will be using Brie to hunt since that's what available to them. Gouda is not the expected bait of choice, since only returning hunters will have that option open to them, while SB+ is always the better option (in general) in any location that uses Brie. So the question now is, is SB+ better than Gouda in hunting the Shelder? I'm inclined to think so, but as mentioned earlier by Twentypence, the data shows otherwise.

So before anyone jumps in again and edits the preference, please substantiate with hard data showing the attraction rate for SB+ versus the Shelder. There's no need to validate for Brie or Gouda in this case. And if Gouda clearly attracts more Shelders than Brie, then it should remain as a bait preference since Brie is the benchmark for this location. Hopefully that will clarify things a little more. Of course the easiest solution is to ask Dave V. directly, but I'll leave it to the rest to resolve this :) -- Grexx 18:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)