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== Lab? ==
 
Mole in the Lab? Are we sure? They can follow people but I don't think the lab is their source. Fishwick.
 
*Actually as of MH 2.0 or so they've stopped following players. It was mentioned by the developers some time back when someone else asked. Not sure about the Mole in the Lab though. I was there for over 800 hunts or so but no Moles. Info could be wrong. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 17:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
**I agree.  Until someone can reliably confirm that they ARE in the Lab, I'm removing that info from the page. (P.S. Always sign your posts, original poster.) --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 18:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 
**Mole mice do not currently inhabit the Laboratory. --[[User:Dave Vanderburg|Dave Vanderburg]] 20:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Advice? ==
 
== Advice? ==
  
 
This seems inconsistent; we don't recommend hunters to hunt in the Lab with RB for the Monster. I also don't think this is good advise, better to go to Digby and use Swiss/Brie and get catches/experience whilst chasing the Mole. Have had no confirmation they have a preference for White Cheddar. Fishwick.
 
This seems inconsistent; we don't recommend hunters to hunt in the Lab with RB for the Monster. I also don't think this is good advise, better to go to Digby and use Swiss/Brie and get catches/experience whilst chasing the Mole. Have had no confirmation they have a preference for White Cheddar. Fishwick.
 
:The point of hunting in Meadow with White Cheddar is that there are relatively few others that you can catch... in two days in the meadow with white cheddar, I caught two mole mice. Do note that this will only fill in as a count, you won't get your map though. However, if all you want is the picture, Meadow with WC is probably your easiest choice. -- Maymne 23:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 
:The point of hunting in Meadow with White Cheddar is that there are relatively few others that you can catch... in two days in the meadow with white cheddar, I caught two mole mice. Do note that this will only fill in as a count, you won't get your map though. However, if all you want is the picture, Meadow with WC is probably your easiest choice. -- Maymne 23:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::That's how I got my Mole as well, though it didn't take quite that long. YMMV. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 00:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
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::That's how I got my Mole as well, though it didn't take nearly that long. YMMV. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 00:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 
You will get the Mole, however I don't think it is the best way. 2 in 2 days is not particularly good, you get hardly any points or gold. Still doesn't answer about the inconsistency. The reason so many catch the Mole with WC is because so many are advised to. Fishwick
 
You will get the Mole, however I don't think it is the best way. 2 in 2 days is not particularly good, you get hardly any points or gold. Still doesn't answer about the inconsistency. The reason so many catch the Mole with WC is because so many are advised to. Fishwick
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:I disagree. The reason people catch the Mole with WC is the same reason your garden grows better with herbicides: elimination of competition.  There's a limited selection of mice in the Meadow to start with.  If you then eliminate the weaker mice from the picture by using WC as bait, then simple math suggests an increase in the chances of catching a Mole.Let's look at it this way (with purely made-up numbers):  These are the mice in the Meadow with made-up populations totaling a pool of 100:
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:*<strike>White Mouse</strike> - 16
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:*<strike>Grey Mouse</strike> - 16
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:*<strike>Brown Mouse</strike> - 13
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:*Dwarf Mouse - 11
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:*Mole Mouse - 2
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:*Steel Mouse - 10
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:*Granite Mouse - 10
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:*Bionic Mouse - 8
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:*Gold Mouse -6
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:*Diamond Mouse - 6
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:In this hypothetical, that's 2 Mole mice out of 100 total mice, or a 1 in 50 chance of catching one. (And yes, I know I'm oversimplifying the math and ignoring attraction rate etc.) Using WC eliminates the ones struck out above, making it 2 Mole mice out of 55, nearly doubling your odds of catching one compared with using a different cheese.  And more importantly, even if you don't catch a Mole then you're likely going to catch one of the other more valuable mice (that is, more valuable than the W/G/B eliminated by using WC).  It's not as if you either catch a Mole or you catch nothing.  To each his own, but I don't see a downside to using WC to catch Moles if simply catching a Mole is your aim. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 04:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

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Advice?

This seems inconsistent; we don't recommend hunters to hunt in the Lab with RB for the Monster. I also don't think this is good advise, better to go to Digby and use Swiss/Brie and get catches/experience whilst chasing the Mole. Have had no confirmation they have a preference for White Cheddar. Fishwick.

The point of hunting in Meadow with White Cheddar is that there are relatively few others that you can catch... in two days in the meadow with white cheddar, I caught two mole mice. Do note that this will only fill in as a count, you won't get your map though. However, if all you want is the picture, Meadow with WC is probably your easiest choice. -- Maymne 23:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
That's how I got my Mole as well, though it didn't take nearly that long. YMMV. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 00:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

You will get the Mole, however I don't think it is the best way. 2 in 2 days is not particularly good, you get hardly any points or gold. Still doesn't answer about the inconsistency. The reason so many catch the Mole with WC is because so many are advised to. Fishwick

I disagree. The reason people catch the Mole with WC is the same reason your garden grows better with herbicides: elimination of competition. There's a limited selection of mice in the Meadow to start with. If you then eliminate the weaker mice from the picture by using WC as bait, then simple math suggests an increase in the chances of catching a Mole.Let's look at it this way (with purely made-up numbers): These are the mice in the Meadow with made-up populations totaling a pool of 100:
  • White Mouse - 16
  • Grey Mouse - 16
  • Brown Mouse - 13
  • Dwarf Mouse - 11
  • Mole Mouse - 2
  • Steel Mouse - 10
  • Granite Mouse - 10
  • Bionic Mouse - 8
  • Gold Mouse -6
  • Diamond Mouse - 6
In this hypothetical, that's 2 Mole mice out of 100 total mice, or a 1 in 50 chance of catching one. (And yes, I know I'm oversimplifying the math and ignoring attraction rate etc.) Using WC eliminates the ones struck out above, making it 2 Mole mice out of 55, nearly doubling your odds of catching one compared with using a different cheese. And more importantly, even if you don't catch a Mole then you're likely going to catch one of the other more valuable mice (that is, more valuable than the W/G/B eliminated by using WC). It's not as if you either catch a Mole or you catch nothing. To each his own, but I don't see a downside to using WC to catch Moles if simply catching a Mole is your aim. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 04:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)