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== Definitions == | == Definitions == | ||
What defines "very effective" and "less effective" when comparing traps of different power types? Is it a percentage gain in power, halving? Doubling? Something more specific would be nice. | What defines "very effective" and "less effective" when comparing traps of different power types? Is it a percentage gain in power, halving? Doubling? Something more specific would be nice. | ||
| + | :See the Wiki page on [[Effectiveness]]. http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?xid=mousehunt_strategy&app_id=10337532241&c_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&r_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&sig=0936ad0f294126dec6eedd6539607b9b&topic=31998#topic_top indicates that the power multiplier may be as much as a factor of eight. -- [[User:Ralphminer|Ralphminer]] 03:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
=== Tactical versus Physical === | === Tactical versus Physical === | ||
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The table showing what trap is best for the various scenarios is valuable for those wanting to know advice, but doesn't indicate how those values came to be. | The table showing what trap is best for the various scenarios is valuable for those wanting to know advice, but doesn't indicate how those values came to be. | ||
| + | : This is based on the Catch Rate Estimate tool http://mousehunt.thetoxiczone.com/catch_rates_estimates.html with the Lucky Golden Shield Inactive -- [[User:Ralphminer|Ralphminer]] 03:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
For example, when hunting for Blue prints, why is the [[NVMRC Forcefield Trap | NVMRC]] with either cheese better than the [[Drill Bot]], when the [[Drill Bot]]'s greater power may help in catching the Tactical mouse better? | For example, when hunting for Blue prints, why is the [[NVMRC Forcefield Trap | NVMRC]] with either cheese better than the [[Drill Bot]], when the [[Drill Bot]]'s greater power may help in catching the Tactical mouse better? | ||
| + | : The Blue prints are droped from Tactical mice - so if you are using a physical trap - you will be better off with luck. -- [[User:Ralphminer|Ralphminer]] 03:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
How much benefit does a trap with "very effective" add to a catch? | How much benefit does a trap with "very effective" add to a catch? | ||
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=== Cross over === | === Cross over === | ||
At some point, a minimalistic tactical trap will be worse than a high end physical trap. Where is this cross over? Some new hunters entering this area would like to know where to invest their hard saved gold, and whether the 400,000+ gold just spent on a [[Digby Drill Bot]] was a waste of gold. | At some point, a minimalistic tactical trap will be worse than a high end physical trap. Where is this cross over? Some new hunters entering this area would like to know where to invest their hard saved gold, and whether the 400,000+ gold just spent on a [[Digby Drill Bot]] was a waste of gold. | ||
| + | : The purpose of this Trap Setup Option pages is to provide a side by side comparrison of the various ways different hunters may choose to play the game. It goes beyond the scope of these articles to determine the optimal walkthough or to determine if hunters will get their return on investment on particular traps. -- [[User:Ralphminer|Ralphminer]] 03:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Definitions
What defines "very effective" and "less effective" when comparing traps of different power types? Is it a percentage gain in power, halving? Doubling? Something more specific would be nice.
- See the Wiki page on Effectiveness. http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?xid=mousehunt_strategy&app_id=10337532241&c_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&r_url=http%253A%252F%252Fapps.facebook.com%252Fmousehunt%252Fboards.php&sig=0936ad0f294126dec6eedd6539607b9b&topic=31998#topic_top indicates that the power multiplier may be as much as a factor of eight. -- Ralphminer 03:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Tactical versus Physical
This is the area that most GrandMasters need their first Tactical Trap. Using the most powerful Physical Trap in this area (Digby Drill Bot) is an option for some, despite the increased run offs from Tactical Mice.
The table showing what trap is best for the various scenarios is valuable for those wanting to know advice, but doesn't indicate how those values came to be.
- This is based on the Catch Rate Estimate tool http://mousehunt.thetoxiczone.com/catch_rates_estimates.html with the Lucky Golden Shield Inactive -- Ralphminer 03:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
For example, when hunting for Blue prints, why is the NVMRC with either cheese better than the Drill Bot, when the Drill Bot's greater power may help in catching the Tactical mouse better?
- The Blue prints are droped from Tactical mice - so if you are using a physical trap - you will be better off with luck. -- Ralphminer 03:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
How much benefit does a trap with "very effective" add to a catch?
ie: to catch a given physical mouse more than 70% of the time, you need a trap with power "X". When catching an equivalent tactical mouse, does it become X/2, X/4 ? Similarly for the very effective bonus - is that X*2? X*4?
Cross over
At some point, a minimalistic tactical trap will be worse than a high end physical trap. Where is this cross over? Some new hunters entering this area would like to know where to invest their hard saved gold, and whether the 400,000+ gold just spent on a Digby Drill Bot was a waste of gold.
- The purpose of this Trap Setup Option pages is to provide a side by side comparrison of the various ways different hunters may choose to play the game. It goes beyond the scope of these articles to determine the optimal walkthough or to determine if hunters will get their return on investment on particular traps. -- Ralphminer 03:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
