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While I am by no means an expert on the mechanics of Zugzwang's Tower, I've based the listed cheese preference for Checkmate cheese off of two things: the attraction rates logged on Horntracker, as well as the description of Checkmate cheese which reads ''"The Kings of both teams long for a morsel of this cheese...."'' My main concern would be that the results listed on Horntracker could be skewed, as hunters are more likely to use this cheese at a point when the kings can actually be attracted, and that the actual attraction rate may not differ from that of other cheeses. If anyone out there knows more about this matter than myself, well, your input is welcome. :-) —[[User:MearsMan|<b><font color="#B22222">'''''MearsMan'''''</font></b>]] [[User talk:MearsMan|<font color="#008B8B"><sup><u>''talk''</u></sup></font>]] 17:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | While I am by no means an expert on the mechanics of Zugzwang's Tower, I've based the listed cheese preference for Checkmate cheese off of two things: the attraction rates logged on Horntracker, as well as the description of Checkmate cheese which reads ''"The Kings of both teams long for a morsel of this cheese...."'' My main concern would be that the results listed on Horntracker could be skewed, as hunters are more likely to use this cheese at a point when the kings can actually be attracted, and that the actual attraction rate may not differ from that of other cheeses. If anyone out there knows more about this matter than myself, well, your input is welcome. :-) —[[User:MearsMan|<b><font color="#B22222">'''''MearsMan'''''</font></b>]] [[User talk:MearsMan|<font color="#008B8B"><sup><u>''talk''</u></sup></font>]] 17:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | :Typically cheese preferences listed here are factual rather than inferred. There is nothing from the devs that explicitly establishes this preference and, as you suggested, the anecdotal evidence from Horntracker may be skewed. As such I'm going to revert the changes until such time as the devs confirm such a preference. Sorry. <span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;background-color:#fff;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;">[[User:Brossow|<span style="color:#358;">B.Rossow</span>]] · [[User_talk:Brossow|<span style="color:#35d;">talk</span>]]</span> 17:27, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | |
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| + | ::No, that's perfectly fine! I'm just trying to come up with some content for the Cheese Preference section for these mice, as the [[MHWiki:Manual of Style#Preferred Cheese|manual of style]] states that this section should always be included. Would you say the "no specific preference for any kind of cheese" description is more accurate for the time being? —[[User:MearsMan|<b><font color="#B22222">'''''MearsMan'''''</font></b>]] [[User talk:MearsMan|<font color="#008B8B"><sup><u>''talk''</u></sup></font>]] 17:36, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :::That's definitely better. We've had problems in the past with people adding guesses, conjectures and personal theories, which are then assumed to be canonized fact regardless of how far off from reality the info actually is. As a result, my knee-jerk reaction is remove anything that isn't supported with documentation from the devs. Thanks for not taking offense! <span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;background-color:#fff;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;">[[User:Brossow|<span style="color:#358;">B.Rossow</span>]] · [[User_talk:Brossow|<span style="color:#35d;">talk</span>]]</span> 17:38, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
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| + | ::::I don't remember where I saw it, but I seem to recall a FBF where the devs stated that using checkmate increases the likelihood of attracting the current mouse that you are trying to catch (that is, it even helps you catch rook or queen faster, even if you aren't at the king yet). But if that's the case, then we should list checkmate as a preference for all the higher powered mice, not just the king. For now, I'm fine not listing a cheese preference, without something more concrete to point to. -- <span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;">[[User:Ericb|ericb]] <sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Ericb|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ericb|contr]]</sub></span> 19:08, 26 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
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Cheese Pref
While I am by no means an expert on the mechanics of Zugzwang's Tower, I've based the listed cheese preference for Checkmate cheese off of two things: the attraction rates logged on Horntracker, as well as the description of Checkmate cheese which reads "The Kings of both teams long for a morsel of this cheese...." My main concern would be that the results listed on Horntracker could be skewed, as hunters are more likely to use this cheese at a point when the kings can actually be attracted, and that the actual attraction rate may not differ from that of other cheeses. If anyone out there knows more about this matter than myself, well, your input is welcome. :-) —MearsMan talk 17:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Typically cheese preferences listed here are factual rather than inferred. There is nothing from the devs that explicitly establishes this preference and, as you suggested, the anecdotal evidence from Horntracker may be skewed. As such I'm going to revert the changes until such time as the devs confirm such a preference. Sorry. B.Rossow · talk 17:27, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- No, that's perfectly fine! I'm just trying to come up with some content for the Cheese Preference section for these mice, as the manual of style states that this section should always be included. Would you say the "no specific preference for any kind of cheese" description is more accurate for the time being? —MearsMan talk 17:36, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- That's definitely better. We've had problems in the past with people adding guesses, conjectures and personal theories, which are then assumed to be canonized fact regardless of how far off from reality the info actually is. As a result, my knee-jerk reaction is remove anything that isn't supported with documentation from the devs. Thanks for not taking offense! B.Rossow · talk 17:38, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- I don't remember where I saw it, but I seem to recall a FBF where the devs stated that using checkmate increases the likelihood of attracting the current mouse that you are trying to catch (that is, it even helps you catch rook or queen faster, even if you aren't at the king yet). But if that's the case, then we should list checkmate as a preference for all the higher powered mice, not just the king. For now, I'm fine not listing a cheese preference, without something more concrete to point to. -- ericb talkcontr 19:08, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
