User talk:Brossow

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-- B.Rossow ^talk_contr

Regarding the Burroughs River Page

I think we should keep this page though possibly revert it back to the original page originally made by Dave. The page itself serves no more use other than a history to the development of the three new furoma locations. Also, we all love a little history of MH don't we? We're still trying to find out who Ronza is after all =p

• Since the articles for referenced locations are causing the same problem as crafted cheeses, I'm thinking we could use the same solution and just put them all into a single article. I've made an example in my sandbox after going through every location/loot/mouse description and only selecting the capitalized references. The exclusions include Ronza's homeland, Zugzwang's tower, the eastern island and the northern forest of Furoma. Revengeance 12:47, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Looks excellent! Start the page by clicking this link: Referenced locations. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 13:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Done. :) Revengeance 05:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

An addition to the FAQ

Based on the fact that Dave Vanderburg himself has said that switching traps/bases will not affect luck in catching mice (according to his revision history of Master of the Cheese Belt Mouse), would it be worth mentioning that in the FAQ? It's (unfortunately) a REALLY widely-held belief that changing traps will make it easier to catch things, and it might sway people against it if we mentioned it. --Kirbix 03:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

• Go for it.  :-) -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 07:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I actually feel that information would better go in the myth pages (could go in the FAQ as well) along side the cheddar banking myth.AzureOwl 09:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Spanish Pages

That's good you're not afraid to tell me. I am semi-fluent in Spanish though I have not needed to speak it in a long time so if there is someone who is more fluent, I will be glad to let him edit the pages and thanks for your comments. I always enjoy them and even though I don't always agree with them at first I Always see your point after a while.--Justin.craig09 20:07, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the quick reply! Didn't mean anything personal -- acting more as a messenger as I'm FAR from fluent in Spanish (unless you need someone to count to ten -- then I'm your guy!) and wouldn't know if they were even close to correct or not. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 20:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Its okay. I didn't take any offense. I haven't used my Spanish in years and it has depleted quite a bit. I may do a few edits here and there but I will make them few and far between. Oh and by the way, are there any special projects you would like me to work on? I will make sure I get them approved by you before I change anything big.--Justin.craig09 20:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
    • I don't have anything specific in mind. I'm spending more time lately on a different wiki I'm getting off the ground (unrelated to MH). Please don't think you need to get anything approved by me -- I'm no more in charge around here than you or anyone else except the developers who own the site. I just happen to have strong opinions on how things should be done. If you have something to work on, go for it! If it's a big change, I'd suggest doing it in your sandbox and then posting a note on the relevant talk page for affected article(s) before making sweeping changes, but that's up to you. Gotta run.... -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 20:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

control freak?

This is the second time I've modified a page in order to improve it, and the second time I've had my changes rolled back so that you can post it again with some other changes of your own. Do you always modify a page after someone else has? Are you a control freak who always has to have the last word? If that's so, then just set up your own page and don't make it a wiki! I can tell you that I will never bother trying to help again!!!!! --robodok 15:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

• Dude, take a pill. It wasn't your edits being targeted but the editor before you. I can't fix his errors without affecting yours. Madrocker keeps making messy edits and I keep cleaning them up. Had nothing to do with you. Regardless, you'd do well to note the message below the edit box: "Please note that all contributions to MHWiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here." Whatever the case, it has nothing to do with you and certainly nothing to do with control. Just a bit of advice: if you take edits personally, a wiki is not the place for you. If you care about getting credit for your work or having your name at the top of a page history, a wiki is not the place for you. Happy hunting! -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 15:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Just checked your contribution history to see how else I had wronged you. With regard to the article on the pages from Plankrun's journal, I moved the page to match what it's called in the game instead of a made-up title. Because I had to have the last word? No. Because it was incorrect and I fixed it. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 15:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
    • It's not about credit, it's about not having everything I do invalidated as if I did something wrong. I couldn't care less if it was anonymous! My previous edit was changing the title of a page from "Pages", which was quite enigmatic, to "Plankrun's Pages", a clear improvement. But minutes later you change it telling me "They are NOT called Plankrun's Pages in-game!" Do you really think that is an appropriate tone to take? Was Plankrun's Pages not a thousand times better than just Pages? If it was so critical to have it exactly right, why didn't you do it before instead of waiting to jump all over the next person who tried to improve it? Editing is one thing, but this is something else entirely. I've made many changes to wikipedia and of course revisions are made on top of mine, but not once have I encountered something like this. Enjoy your little wiki.
      • Yeesh. I can't quantify how much "better" your page name change was (10x? 100x? 1000x?), but I can tell you it was 100% incorrect. I changed it soon after your move because it showed up at the top of the Recent Changes page, which I check once in awhile to see what changes are being made. If I see something wrong, I fix it as quickly as possible. Would you have preferred I let it sit for 24 hours so I didn't tread on your toes? You're clearly taking it personally, so maybe it is time you take a break from editing; stress over a game is silly. And by the way, it's not my wiki. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 16:06, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
        • You spend that much time poring over changes and making edits and it's not even your wiki? And you tell me I should take a break? You make me laugh!
          • That much time? Takes a few seconds to look at the recent changes page and click the diff link to see what was changed. *sigh* -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 16:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
            • Sigh! I want to have the last word! What do you think about that? sigh
              • "Please note that all contributions to MHWiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here." And "Brossow" has been here Way longer than you.--Justin.craig09 19:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Italicizing "MouseHunt"

I've been trying to do it every time I see it, and I'm a little boggled by your reasons for not doing it. I understand there are more examples of it not being italicized around the wiki, but is that really a relevant excuse for reverting italicized ones? Shouldn't technical correctness be something we're generally aiming for? Revengeance 08:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

• I think there needs to be a balance between technical correctness, consistency, and maintainability. If you really think that you can italicize every occurrence on the wiki AND convince all future editors to do the same, go for it. I'm all for correctness in most cases, but in a situation such as this where it will be virtually impossible to keep up with and where the result will be a mishmash of italics and standard text, I think common sense wins out. Not a single player who comes here looking for info is going to be confused or offended by seeing MouseHunt without italics, but I know without a hint of doubt how it will be perceived when they see it varying from page to page and even paragraph to paragraph. If you're going to do it, it simply cannot be on an "every time I see it" basis -- you're going to need to commit to quickly and thoroughly scouring the wiki in one fell swoop so that everyone else's hard work doesn't get turned into an inconsistent mess AND you're going to have to commit to regularly patrolling the Recent changes page to ensure that all future edits maintain the italics. IMHO, of course. Beyond my opinion, there's also precedence set by other game-based wikis. (Wikipedia is not included among these -- there's a big difference not only in purpose between Wikipedia and sites like this but also in sheer userbase numbers. It's a lot easier to maintain consistency on a single topic page rather than an entire site, and it's a lot easier with hundreds or thousands of editors watching that single page than with a tiny handful of editors actively working on an entire site like this.) Here are some other game wikis I found via Google that do not italicize: Urban Dead ... Call of Duty ... EverQuest 2 ... Fable ... and so on. These are simply the first few I stumbled upon, not a hand-selected bunch, and not one of these wikis italicizes the game name beyond the main page, if there. Again, just my insomniac opinion. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 11:02, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Argh, you hit me with another short story! I'm just gonna agree with you because I'm way too tired to comprehend all that tonight. @_@ Revengeance 12:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Please pardon me for explaining my reasons. Can't believe you'd rather I just say, 'You're wrong," and leave it at that. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 14:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)