Talk:MouseHunt Jargon

Title Change Suggestion

Not everything that is in here (or needs to be in here) is an abbreviation or acronym. Suggest title change to "Abbreviations and forum jargon", or something similar. --Winelight 07:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Silence is consent? --Winelight 12:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Not in this case. Give people time to consider and comment. There's no deadline. --B.Rossow · talk 12:12, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe then we also need to consider that it is not only the forums where this jargon is used. I mainly stay away from there since it was overrun by beggars, whingers and whiners and I still use this short-speak since it is convenient and much faster when talking to other hunters on their Cork Boards or commenting on (mouse[hunt related]-)posts. I personally detest the word jargon but that might only be due to me not being an English native speaker and the negative connotations the word has in German (my mother tongue). I'd suggest argot but doubt that (m)any will know what it stands for (including myself ;]) so I stick with lingo which is close enough to language which is what is meant in the end. So my vote would be for MouseHunt lingo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by M. (talk • contribs)

I propose deleting the page altogether and adding the abbreviations / slang / jargon / lingo / acronyms / <whatever> to the related articles themselves. The list doesn't do much good as it is and the info would be more appropriate to include in the articles themselves. --B.Rossow · talk 19:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for my forgetfulness... :s
I definitely vote against deleting since it is the only (?) place to find this stuff if you look for it/answers. ...and to me it's pretty much senseless to include (or should I say shatter?) it in the respective articles since this would be like Jeopardy! _____m. 19:57, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Agree with Jeorpardy above - people often ask in the forums "what do you mean by [DHU or whatever]", and presumably far more often than that people look it up and don't have to ask. Also agree that "jargon" is not necessarily the best word , but what else? "forum slang" appeals to me. But I don't think it really matters what you call it. --Winelight 06:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Although if it were deleted, there is another list here http://furoma.com/guide/appendices/abbreviations so it wouldn't particularly matter. --Winelight 07:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm another non-native speaker of English, but I think that jargon is a neutral word (definition courtesy of dictionary.com: "the language, esp. the vocabulary, peculiar to a particular trade, profession, or group: medical jargon.") If it can be applied to a serious discipline like medicine, surely it's neutral enough. Slang which someone also proposed feels much more negative. -- Camomiletea 18:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

If it's to be kept, my vote is for MouseHunt jargon. Nothing even remotely negative about the term in English AFAIK, and I'm a native speaker. --B.Rossow · talk 18:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Though jargon has a slightly negative connotation where I come from (.sg), being associated with confusing technical terms/legalese (technical jargon, legal jargon), MouseHunt Jargon/jargon is an apt name to give it, since a number of these terms aren't limited to the forums only, as M. mentioned, and cover nicknames, acronyms, abbreviations, partial names etc. More importantly, it shortens the name and actually explains the article better, so it isn't just a cosmetic renaming exercise.

With regards to removing the page and adding the terms to the articles themselves, there'll be some lost information for articles without pages, and will be a mess due to lack of any consistent standards in naming/notability etc, so I'm against doing so. Depending on an external site to hold the information is never a good idea because the general public will be unable to contribute, so let's stick with renaming the article to something more suitable :)

On a related note, we could also call it MouseHunt Terminology, and consolidate some of the official terms together, and separate them into official and unofficial sections. Or come to think of it, we could call it Unofficial MouseHunt Terminology. But I'm fine with MouseHunt jargon either ways, since it doesn't require as much work lol. -- Grexx 17:25, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

BlingBot

Added 'blingbot' (another variation of chromebot). This nickname is derived from the first line of the description. --WyndStryke 18:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Reverted that edit. First, it's not an abbreviation or acronym. Second, I did a thorough Google search and that term is virtually NEVER used. In fact, I can only turn up two instances, once in April and once in August. But the first point makes my second moot. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 18:56, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Strange that Google shows up so few instances, because I have referred to it as the "blingbot" myself on several occasions in the forum. And as for your first point, it rather misses the purpose of this page, which is to provide users with the full name for terms they might see used in the forum. The fact that it is neither an abbreviation nor an acronym merely reveals a deficiency in the page title - I don't see the value in deliberately concealing helpful information from users just because it doesn't fit what someone once titled the page. --Winelight 22:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Chrome Drillbot

Arguably, both the nicknames "CDDB" and "Chillbot" are widely used, but with each party trying to convince others to adopt their own nickname; as such, would it be better to remove both nicknames completely or temporarily blank it until a common consensus is reached? -- Denunciator 13:43, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I find it thoroughly amusing that people are fighting over which nickname is correct, when in fact, every nickname given is valid as long as there's a reasonable amount of people using it. Moreover, most players know what the names rightly refer to, even if they don't agree over it. As such, both names are in fact proper nicknames as both have been adopted for use by some players. -- Grexx 13:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

So then we should include both nicknames? Also, I found some of the nicknames included quite fascinating - Combs for Catacombs and Bush for Ambush, for example - almost no people use these nicknames, so should they be pruned as cleanup or remain as they are? -- Denunciator 13:50, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Not really worth the trouble to go through the names here. But if it's bugging you, go ahead and work on the ones you think are no longer in use. This article has lower standards for notability though, precisely to save the effort of having to justify which nicknames/jargon are proper and common, and having to check through the data supporting it. This is mostly because the only source for these terms are from the forums, and thus extremely subjective to justify either ways (removal or addition). -- Grexx 14:04, 27 December 2009 (UTC)