Talk:Crafting Items

Images

Holding area for images. It should go up somewhere, but not yet decided on how and where. HG server image means it has not been uploaded elsewhere as yet. -- Grexx 07:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Another column could be made--Stinson 19:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I played with the idea of another column, but I was thinking that unless the developers actually give us image upload capabilities, it would be quite ugly to have a column called images and then just have links there. Sort of points out the lack of images I think. But the thing is I really dislike dumping all the images at the bottom like what's being done on some of the other pages, especially if the list is long. So still thinking of a better solution... -- Grexx 20:29, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I think might settle for a simple table at the bottom, under images as a subsection under contents. It'll contain 5 alphabets per row (19 alphabets being used now). That should compress the height somewhat, and provide a easily searchable list. So it'll be something like:

Example Table

Table has been moved to the main article itself to avoid confusion on where to update links to. -- Grexx 20:56, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Table is completed, but the number of missing images is way too high to put it onto the main article. Going to need quite a fair bit of assistance on this. -- Grexx 17:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Can someone check if store bought items from the General Stores have higher resolution images available, in a manner similar to the Cheese images, where inventory images are of smaller resolution as compared to the images available in the Cheese Shoppe. If there are, the image links here should be updated with the higher resolution images as much as possible. The image list is almost done too. It should be ready to be moved into the main article. This will be done after we confirm the image resolution. Either way, the section can go up first, since the images aren't really as vital as Mice and Trap images. -- Grexx 17:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Meteorite Piece

The external link to this image is broken or no longer valid. Can anyone replace it? In the meantime I'll unlink it. Thanks. Joseph 02:49, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Here's a link to the meteorite image on MH servers (needs to be uploaded soemwhere else): Meteorite Piece. Also here's a Frozen Scroll (also needs to be uploaded elsewhere. -- Camomiletea 19:46, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Splitting of Table

There's a need to split the table into General Crafting Items and Event Limited Crafting Items (or whatever name is more appropriate) to reduce clutter somewhat. Event Limited Crafting Items will hold any item that appears in the Crafting Items drop-down list, and as the description says, will contain the list of items that are available only during events. In the event that the item is subsequently available as a normal drop (ie Coal), it will be moved back into the General Crafting Items table.

Appreciate if someone can take this up, since I'm short of time to work on this. Most of the items to be included in the Event Limited Crafting Items have just recently been released. Redirects need to be adjusted for those currently pointing to the Festive Gift Shoppe. -- Grexx 16:29, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest a separate section for these items' images as well. --B.Rossow · talk 18:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I added the separate table; but not sure if Mistletoe and Christmas Coal should be in there too, since I don't have those items... -- Camomiletea 18:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

At this point, no. They aren't listed as crafting items in the Inventory. --B.Rossow · talk 18:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

That's not conclusive, e.g. Greeting Card is also not listed in the crafting items in the Inventory but it appears in the drop-down menu for crafting. I guess I'm going to try to obtain these two items to verify. -- Camomiletea 18:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Good point. :-) FWIW, I have all of the items and all appear in the drop-down except the Santa Bear and the Slightly Smaller Gift. --B.Rossow · talk 18:29, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with splitting it out. I've done some further adjustments to the items that were missed out as well as splitting the images, so it should be much clearer now. Let me know if there's any more suggestions for improvements :) -- Grexx 14:55, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Great Winter Hunt '09 items

So now that we know that the 12 Christmas items and the gifted items are not going to be used for crafting, should they remain here? I'm not sure where they would go otherwise. A new miscellaneous/gifts page? --Hyperchao 17:45, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Or were only the new set of expensive gifts (e.g. gold bar) verified to be decorative? --Hyperchao 17:47, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

The reasoning why these items were placed here is that when you go to Crafting page, and pull down the menu of available ingredients, they are there. Even the items that the devs confirmed had no use (which was only the last batch with the gold brick). Note also that Egg Nog which is part of the 12 items still remains after the exchange. I would suggest keeping them here. They are separated from the other crafting items anyway in the Limited section, and I think that's enough (rather than having them on a separate page). -- Camomiletea 21:18, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah. Didn't check the crafting ingredient list. Only checked the items shown on the crafting page. --Hyperchao 21:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Categorization of Novelty Items

This discussion was initially started in Talk:Teddy Bear. It has been moved as a whole into this more general talk page. The last discussion could be found here. -- Grexx

Since there are now more and more items like this one (Teddy Bear, Santa Bear, Slap Cat, Toy Ronza Ship); I think we need a category for them or a single page on which all could be listed... Don't know what would be a good name. -- Camomiletea 00:27, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Comfort and Hope? Pus 00:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Flavour/Flavor Items. There's a number of them, most of the items sold in the Festive Gift Shoppe are just there for flavour and not for crafting, even if they do fall under crafting items. It's certainly up for more discussion though. -- Grexx 10:30, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Novelty Collectables. This is from the Developers in the last minute Christmas shopping news post. "All the new items are entirely novelty collectables" -- Ralphminer 12:30, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I would recommend using a category rather than a page - since a hunter does not need to compare them. -- Ralphminer 12:32, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be good if it were centralized like Crafting Items and Cheese, which makes it easy to keep track of, as well as clearing any confusion there might be about the usage of these items. There are 2 categories at the moment, clickables and non-clickables. We could probably create a new article Novelty Collectables and point the various items there, including Gold Bricks etc. One look and players will know that the items have no practical usage. If we do decide on Novelty Collectables, we'll need to remember a redirect on Novelty Collectibles, as both are acceptable variants. -- Grexx 17:38, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Do we know that they are all novelty collectibles though? I know that the last wave of holiday gifts were confirmed to be useless in terms of crafting, but as far as I'm aware that's the only info we have. Are we sure, for instance, that the Teddy Bear is useless? -- Doogleface 18:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of the usefulness of the item, most of them certainly qualify as Novelty Collectables. A remark can be easily made about the fact that whether it works or not is unknown, and best left to the player's imagination. One way around this is to have another Novelty Item section in Crafting Items to hold those listed as crafting ingredients, and another Novelty Collectables article to hold the items that appear under the Misc tab, ie Teddy Bear. Of course another solution is to check with Dave on that, but it'll be best to sort out any details here first. -- Grexx 19:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

That could work. We could sort the Novelty Collectibles article like it's done in MH inventory.. Like have sections for gifts, misc, and crafting. Also I like your idea of also putting the "craftable" items on the crafting page, with a note saying it's uncertain how they will be used. Is it ok that the novelty collectibles that are also used for crafting will appear twice- once on each page? -- Doogleface 2:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Created page at Novelty Collectibles (note spelling) -- Doogleface 15:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)