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[https://www.mousehuntgame.com/forum/showthread.php?109917-UNGUIDE-Sunken-City The Forum] has a great start to the collection of necessary info for this area.
 
[https://www.mousehuntgame.com/forum/showthread.php?109917-UNGUIDE-Sunken-City The Forum] has a great start to the collection of necessary info for this area.
 
--[[User:TW George|TW George]] 16:20, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 
--[[User:TW George|TW George]] 16:20, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
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:There are some rough sketches at [[User_talk:Matthew_F]], but I agree with the above that I'd prefer to see it separated by area (Coral Reef, Rocky Outcrop, etc.), rather than by mouse-subgroup the way it is now in the sketches. I think that makes sense especially since the mice drop different loot in different areas (if I understood it correctly from the forum, I'm just beginning my dive, no personal experience yet). -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 16:25, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
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::I'd like to see a rough level overview up front, with a table pointing to the zones:
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{| cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" border="1" style="border-collapse:collapse;"
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|- style="background:whitesmoke"
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! Zone type !! < 2,000 !! 2,000-10,000 !! > 10,000
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|-
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| Low loot || Shallow Shoals || Sea Floor || ??
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|-
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| [[Barnacle]] || Rocky Outcrops || Shipwreck || Murky Depths
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|-
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| [[Mouse Scale]] || School of Mice || Mermouse Den || Lost Ruins
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|-
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| ... || || ||
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|}
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::then below the table, one section for each zone, similar to how we have separate tables for each tier of the [[King's Gauntlet]]. Even if some mice appear in more than one zone, the loot they drop (might) differ by zone. --&nbsp;<span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;">[[User:Ericb|ericb]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Ericb|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ericb|contr]]</sub></span> 16:52, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
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:::The current layout is not very user-friendly.  Dividing the mice by sub-group is not what I want to see, but rather mice per zone.  That is, instead of:
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# Sunken City Citizens
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# Barnacled Bunch
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# Coral Corral
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# ...
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:::I think it would be better to have:
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# Docked
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# Shallow Shoals
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# Sea Floor
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# Murky Depths
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# ...
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:::even if some of the mice are listed more than once because they appear in more than one zone.  Then the table up top can have links to the zone down below, as well as having redirects for each zone name to go directly where we want. --&nbsp;<span style="border:2px ridge #aaf;padding:1px 8px;font:normal 10px Verdana,sans-serif;">[[User:Ericb|ericb]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Ericb|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ericb|contr]]</sub></span> 21:41, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
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::::I'm working on Tables that combine Mouse/Zone/Loot right now.  Currently I'm laying it out like this:
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'''Zone Type Name''' (example: Danger Zone)
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{| cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" border="1" style="border-collapse:collapse;"
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|- style="background:whitesmoke"
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! Mouse !! Zone Name<br/>< 2,000m !! Zone Name <br>2,000m-10,000m !! Zone Name<br/>> 10,000m
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|-
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| Mouse Name || Loot || Loot || Not Present
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|-
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| Mouse Name || Not Present || Loot || Loot
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|-
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| Mouse Name || Not Present || Loot || Not Present
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|}
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--[[User:TW George|TW George]] 22:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
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== Resources ==
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Here are a few other places where information is being gathered:
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* [http://bit.ly/CythomeSunkenCity]
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* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/15XmH0xKIQDjFzllZKSdLE2l5lmdKAEpXWoTsxcoapMg/pub#h.g15fw81abdkv]
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[[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 15:06, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
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== Distances - Lower/Higher bounds so far ==
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Oxygen Stream has been encountered at 7,100m at the low end and at 12,000m at the high end so far, but Deep Oxygen was encountered at 17,500m (and beyond -- 25,740m). I only have a single point of reference for Lair of the Ancients 26,010m, and Magma Flow 27,110m. - [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 14:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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{| border="1" cellpadding="6" style="border-collapse:collapse; text-align:center; margin:8px 0 8px 20px;"
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! Zone !! Low end !! High end
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|-
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|Oxygen Stream ||3,250m || 14,500m
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|-
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|Deep Oxygen || 15,000m || 25,740m
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|-
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|Lair of the Ancients || 26,010m || 28,000m
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|-
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|Magma Flow || 25,000m ||31,850m
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|}
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-- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 14:15, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
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== Periscope ==
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I think the information is still not correct. I think it must be some combination of factors (distance and number of zones shown). I have never seen more than 4 zones, even if they were all only 250m (a total of 1,000m), but when the zones are longer, then you could see fewer zones, but longer distance (1,250m?). Please check this more thoroughly, and I'll try to do the same. [Right now I see 1,250m and 3 zones (500m, 250m and 500m).] -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 05:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 05:16, 13 August 2014

Zones and Dive/Docked sections

When creating the sections of this page,please take into consideration that the various mice have calls that will need to be represented on this page.

Example: "The Mlounder Flounder Mouse is susceptible only to Hydro weapons. It can be found in the Coral Reef, Rocky Outcrop, Sand Dollar Sea Bar, School of Mice, and Shallow Shoals zones while on a Dive in the Sunken City."

There are a number of Zones that will need to be represented as well as a section for Dive and a section for Docked, since several other pages will reference them using the square bracket [[]] method.

The Forum has a great start to the collection of necessary info for this area. --TW George 16:20, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

There are some rough sketches at User_talk:Matthew_F, but I agree with the above that I'd prefer to see it separated by area (Coral Reef, Rocky Outcrop, etc.), rather than by mouse-subgroup the way it is now in the sketches. I think that makes sense especially since the mice drop different loot in different areas (if I understood it correctly from the forum, I'm just beginning my dive, no personal experience yet). -- camomiletea 16:25, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
I'd like to see a rough level overview up front, with a table pointing to the zones:
Zone type < 2,000 2,000-10,000 > 10,000
Low loot Shallow Shoals Sea Floor ??
Barnacle Rocky Outcrops Shipwreck Murky Depths
Mouse Scale School of Mice Mermouse Den Lost Ruins
...
then below the table, one section for each zone, similar to how we have separate tables for each tier of the King's Gauntlet. Even if some mice appear in more than one zone, the loot they drop (might) differ by zone. -- ericb talkcontr 16:52, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
The current layout is not very user-friendly. Dividing the mice by sub-group is not what I want to see, but rather mice per zone. That is, instead of:
  1. Sunken City Citizens
  2. Barnacled Bunch
  3. Coral Corral
  4. ...
I think it would be better to have:
  1. Docked
  2. Shallow Shoals
  3. Sea Floor
  4. Murky Depths
  5. ...
even if some of the mice are listed more than once because they appear in more than one zone. Then the table up top can have links to the zone down below, as well as having redirects for each zone name to go directly where we want. -- ericb talkcontr 21:41, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm working on Tables that combine Mouse/Zone/Loot right now. Currently I'm laying it out like this:

Zone Type Name (example: Danger Zone)

Mouse Zone Name
< 2,000m
Zone Name
2,000m-10,000m
Zone Name
> 10,000m
Mouse Name Loot Loot Not Present
Mouse Name Not Present Loot Loot
Mouse Name Not Present Loot Not Present

--TW George 22:12, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Resources

Here are a few other places where information is being gathered:

camomiletea 15:06, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Distances - Lower/Higher bounds so far

Oxygen Stream has been encountered at 7,100m at the low end and at 12,000m at the high end so far, but Deep Oxygen was encountered at 17,500m (and beyond -- 25,740m). I only have a single point of reference for Lair of the Ancients 26,010m, and Magma Flow 27,110m. - camomiletea 14:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Zone Low end High end
Oxygen Stream 3,250m 14,500m
Deep Oxygen 15,000m 25,740m
Lair of the Ancients 26,010m 28,000m
Magma Flow 25,000m 31,850m

-- camomiletea 14:15, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Periscope

I think the information is still not correct. I think it must be some combination of factors (distance and number of zones shown). I have never seen more than 4 zones, even if they were all only 250m (a total of 1,000m), but when the zones are longer, then you could see fewer zones, but longer distance (1,250m?). Please check this more thoroughly, and I'll try to do the same. [Right now I see 1,250m and 3 zones (500m, 250m and 500m).] -- camomiletea 05:16, 13 August 2014 (UTC)