Talk:Communities

Discussion & rationale

Some of the so-called communities listed on the Main Page are hardly worthy of being included on this page, let alone have their own entry in the MHWiki. While some are truly notable (hundreds or even thousands of members, others have a relative handful at most. In addition, the pages created here read more like 9th-grade fanboy pages than actual relevant content. As such, I plan to tag many of said pages for deletion. The groups can be linked from here with neutral descriptions (with none of the "biggest and funniest"-type of rhetoric) and a simple link to the Facebook group page. This isn't the place for inside jokes, promoting a group, etc. People should be able to visit MHWiki and easily and quickly find relevant information without sorting through rubbish. IMHO, of course.

I propose that criteria be developed and followed for:

1. inclusion of a group on this page, and
2. creation of a separate page on MHWiki for detailed group info

Specifically, there should be a minimum number of group members (if entry links to a Facebook group) or a minimum number of active daily users (if entry links to a third-party website) before a group is listed or merits its own page. The numbers I have in mind are 250 for listing here and 750 for a separate page. Discussion?

--Brossow 00:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Having a minimum criteria is a good idea. But the criteria could be a little more relaxed, something like 100 members for both listing and separate pages. Setting too high a number might result in smaller but better run groups being excluded. I also noticed some groups currently listed are closed groups, so the exact member numbers and activity are unknown which presents some difficulty in determining who should be included.

Another way to approach this is to categorize the communities into large and small ones, with the smaller groups getting a simple name & link.

Another issue is that of inactive groups. There has to be some criteria for removal, since communities do come and go. 2 months from the last visible group activity seems like a reasonable limit. -- Grexx 16:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Even for closed groups you can see the total number of members by doing a simple search, like this one. With the total number of MH users approaching a quarter-million, I don't think it's unreasonable to require a group to have at least 250 members for mention here. That's only 1/10 of 1% of the total MH users. I firmly believe that with minimal effort and starting from scratch, I could have a group meeting this criteria in less than 24 hours. I'm not interested in wasting people's time to prove my point, but Facebook users in general and gamers in specific are natural "joiners." And speaking of closed communities, I wouldn't have a problem holding them to an even higher standard since they're (IMHO) going against the basic nature of Facebook in general and MouseHunt in particular, that of allowing people to become part of an online community. Just MHO, of course. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 16:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Links up for removal

• "CIA of MH" group seems inactive, and currently only has 95 members.
• Need status on "Fraternal Chivalric Order of Mouse Hunting Knights". Number of members no longer shows up on facebook search.

These groups will be up for removal around end March 2009 unless someone can provide information that they are still active. Alternatively, if someone can confirm that a group is inactive, it can be removed any time, no need to wait.

As for those groups I have recently removed, they can be added back any time the group becomes properly active again. -- Grexx 08:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

The 2 groups mentioned have been removed. As per earlier info, they can be added back anytime if active, or if removed in error. -- Grexx 14:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Dubious group claims

Need someone from the group to clean up Mousehunt Prizes' description as looking at the group page and events section, coupled with the fact that it was added by a known vandal, it is not doing any of the activities claimed. If it is not cleaned up by 10 April 2009, it will be removed to avoid misleading players. -- Grexx 15:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

The group admin has very likely not paid out his members from their recent invite "competition". The "winner" is just a blank account linked only to the admin, and no further names were announced. Not expecting much from this group. Unfortunately I do not currently have the time to follow up on this at the moment, will appreciate if someone does a proper fact check and take appropriate action on the forums. Most importantly, we should strive to keep dubious and scam groups off the MH Wiki. -- Grexx 09:48, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

As there has been no action nor comments on this matter, I will be removing the group permanently from the community page. The group has been nothing more than a scam attempt trying to bring the administrators free gold. A quick read of their forums throws up more than enough proof of this. Link to group discussion. -- Grexx 19:02, 23 May 2009 (UTC)