User talk:Camomiletea/Black Widows

Relationship of Weight and Loot

It appears that the amounts of cheese Black Widows drop depend on their weight (the more weight, the more cheese).

Most of the time, that is the case, but I've had catches that contradict that statement. The 4 oz. Black Widow I caught dropped fewer SB+ compared to my 3 oz. catch. Also, the difference between the 9 oz. Black Widow I caught and the 7 oz. you caught is just 1 SB+. Makes you kind of wonder how many an 8 oz. would drop. --Mikeyco 17:36, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

7:16pm
I sounded the Hunter’s Horn.
I was successful in my hunt! I caught a 9 oz. Black Widow mouse from the Bazaar worth 472 points and 15 gold.
The mouse also dropped the following loot:
29 pieces of super brie cheese.

12:27pm tomorrow
I checked my trap and found that I had caught a mouse! I caught a 3 oz. Black Widow mouse from the Bazaar worth 478 points and 13 gold.
The mouse also dropped the following loot:
10 pieces of super brie cheese.

12:48am tomorrow
I checked my trap and found that I had caught a mouse! I caught a 4 oz. Black Widow mouse from the Bazaar worth 477 points and 13 gold.
The mouse also dropped the following loot:
7 pieces of super brie cheese.

If the Monster loot drops I was researching off the wiki is any indicator, I believe the loot is based on a fixed value which scales up according to weight, but on top of which is added a randomizer that will adjust the numbers slightly up or down. Basically, very similar to our King's Rewards which is random but which in general always scales up with rank. -- Grexx 17:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

It might be difficult to pinpoint the exact values for them unless we get some more logs on Black Widows caught. Even having 3 or 4 catches within 1 oz. of each other can be pretty useful and may be enough to get some concrete data. --Mikeyco 18:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

If you are up for it, data gathering is easy as pie, just boring as hell :P Just go to the scoreboard, pick those from page 1-500. Each page has 25 profiles. The last time I went data trawling I managed to dig out 25 or so Monster catches out of about 10 to 20 pages. The BW is more common nowadays so should be a little easier too. I also trawled about 50-100 pages for the attraction rates lol. -- Grexx 18:38, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

LOL. That's what I did to gather data for the Forbidden Grove and Acolyte Realm when they first came out. True. It's boring as hell. I'd rather finish the work I started on the Bases and Weapons. Looks like even Camomiletea caught a Black Widow that contradicts her earlier assessments. --Mikeyco 07:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)