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==Runic cheese==
 
==Runic cheese==
 
I want to know if it attracts gate guardians in there. I have used about 25 runic there and I havent even attracted one. Anyone know the answer for sure? -[[User:Shinnok|Shinnok]] 09:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 
I want to know if it attracts gate guardians in there. I have used about 25 runic there and I havent even attracted one. Anyone know the answer for sure? -[[User:Shinnok|Shinnok]] 09:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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:Reviving this one, but apparantly Runic now attracts Gate Guardians. Anyone able to go confirm this one? [[User:Draobyek|Draobyek]] 10:27, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
  
 
==Bait Preference==
 
==Bait Preference==
 
A writeup of the various bait and preferences in the Hunting Strategy section is required. Adding it into the mice table is not useful because it does not fully explain how each bait works, and adds to the list of things that have to be kept updated and synchronized with the mice master list. Please refer [[MHWiki:Manual of Style#Locations]] for more information. For an example, please see [[Dojo#Hunting Strategy]] -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 16:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 
A writeup of the various bait and preferences in the Hunting Strategy section is required. Adding it into the mice table is not useful because it does not fully explain how each bait works, and adds to the list of things that have to be kept updated and synchronized with the mice master list. Please refer [[MHWiki:Manual of Style#Locations]] for more information. For an example, please see [[Dojo#Hunting Strategy]] -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 16:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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:Bait preferences are still missing from the Hunting strategy, except for this one sentence: "Mutated White and Mutated Grey mice can be encountered in the Acolyte Realm only when hunting with [[Radioactive Blue]] Cheese." We also need information that Acolyte, Wight and Lich mice are only attracted to Runic, and Gate Guardians only to Ancient. And which of the mice are attracted to RB in addition to Ancient etc. -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 05:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
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::RB is also good for Sorcerers and Golems. -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 05:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
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It's so hard to word it, and it may be easier to say it and understand it using a table, such as below -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 19:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
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{| border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; border-collapse:collapse;"
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | [[Mouse]]
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! colspan="10" bgcolor="#bbbbbb" | [[Cheese]]
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|- bgcolor="#dddddd" style="line-height:1.1;" valign="bottom"
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! [[Radioactive Blue|Radio-<br/>active<br />Blue]]
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! [[Ancient]]
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! [[Runic]]
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Mutated Grey]]
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|
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|
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Mutated White]]
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|
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|
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Gate Guardian]]
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|
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Black Widow]]
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Golem]]
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Sorcerer]]
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Gorgon]]
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|
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Spectre]]
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|
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Acolyte Mouse|Acolyte]]
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|
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|
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Lich]]
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|
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|
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|-
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| align="left" | [[Wight]]
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|
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|
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| bgcolor="#ddddff" |  X
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|}
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::I like this table quite a lot! :D ... ___[[User:M.|_m.]] 07:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
  
 
==Mice Rarity==
 
==Mice Rarity==
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::::2% is not less than 1/100 encounters, so not really rare. -- [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 17:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 
::::2% is not less than 1/100 encounters, so not really rare. -- [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 17:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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::::Those stats come from the logs submitted to the survey, the latest figures are 4.96% Wight, 2.24% Lich, 1.49% Acolyte. So none of them fall below the 1% threshold for "rare" mice. (Sample Size 1,508 hunts) -- [[User:Twentypence|Twentypence]] 21:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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:::::Aren't these data biased because people would be keener to send in their logs when they attract/catch rare/interesting mice? - [[User:Mouser|Mouser]] 22:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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::::::It's possible that some of the data is biased in that way, however I know a number of people just submit all of their logs. Given the alternative is to have no information I think we just need to take what we can get. -- [[User:Twentypence|Twentypence]] 12:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
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:::::::Thanks for replying. I agree that this information is much better than nothing. I just think it's important to understand that the 95% statistical confidence interval isn't the only measure of certainty to consider. If in fact many people are submitting all of their logs then the data is probably pretty good! Cheers  [[User:Mouser|Mouser]] 15:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
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== sorcerer loot ==
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based on a hunter's profile:
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I checked my trap and found that I had caught a mouse! I caught a 4 oz. Sorcerer mouse from the Acolyte Realm worth 6,197 points and 354 gold.
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The mouse also dropped the following loot:
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1 Rune.
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My weapon was very effective against this mouse.
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i'm adding the runes to sorcerer loot in acolyte realm.
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--[[User:Silver123|Silver123]] 21:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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== Black Widow ==
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Today I've seen the Black Widow caught by someone in Acolyte Realm, twice; it dropped SB+ as usual, but no RB in both cases. I looked through the edit history of this article, and it appears that the RB as loot has been added from the very start when the list was compiled. I think it was likely in error. -- [[User:Camomiletea|camomiletea]] 23:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 10:27, 2 August 2010

note

added a small note to help people understand the synergy between the grove and realm --Midnight08 15:27, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Runic cheese

I want to know if it attracts gate guardians in there. I have used about 25 runic there and I havent even attracted one. Anyone know the answer for sure? -Shinnok 09:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Reviving this one, but apparantly Runic now attracts Gate Guardians. Anyone able to go confirm this one? Draobyek 10:27, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Bait Preference

A writeup of the various bait and preferences in the Hunting Strategy section is required. Adding it into the mice table is not useful because it does not fully explain how each bait works, and adds to the list of things that have to be kept updated and synchronized with the mice master list. Please refer MHWiki:Manual of Style#Locations for more information. For an example, please see Dojo#Hunting Strategy -- Grexx 16:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Bait preferences are still missing from the Hunting strategy, except for this one sentence: "Mutated White and Mutated Grey mice can be encountered in the Acolyte Realm only when hunting with Radioactive Blue Cheese." We also need information that Acolyte, Wight and Lich mice are only attracted to Runic, and Gate Guardians only to Ancient. And which of the mice are attracted to RB in addition to Ancient etc. -- camomiletea 05:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
RB is also good for Sorcerers and Golems. -- camomiletea 05:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

It's so hard to word it, and it may be easier to say it and understand it using a table, such as below -- camomiletea 19:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Mouse Cheese
Radio-
active
Blue 		Ancient Runic
Mutated Grey X
Mutated White X
Gate Guardian X
Black Widow X X X
Golem X X X
Sorcerer X X X
Gorgon X X
Spectre X X
Acolyte X
Lich X
Wight X
I like this table quite a lot! :D ... ____m. 07:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Mice Rarity

Information is needed on the rarity of the Lich and Wight mice. Is the encounter rate low/rare (ie less than 1/100 encounters are of these mice), or are they just hard to catch. If they are rare, they will need to be highlighted in the mice table. -- Grexx 05:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I've only had a small sample of hunts using Runic cheese submitted so far (214), but there have been 8 Wight attractions and 7 Lich attractions in there. -- Twentypence 10:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok great, thanks for the information, seems they are quite common. It will be useful for the hunting strategy. -- Grexx 16:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
I have some new info regarding this. According to the hunts submitted now (I think we're in the thousands at this point), we're talking a 5% attraction for wight, 2% for lich and 1.5% for acolyte. Lich definitely needs to be listed as rare. I'll link you to the study as soon as I find it again.--Kirbix 14:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
2% is not less than 1/100 encounters, so not really rare. -- Camomiletea 17:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Those stats come from the logs submitted to the survey, the latest figures are 4.96% Wight, 2.24% Lich, 1.49% Acolyte. So none of them fall below the 1% threshold for "rare" mice. (Sample Size 1,508 hunts) -- Twentypence 21:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Aren't these data biased because people would be keener to send in their logs when they attract/catch rare/interesting mice? - Mouser 22:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
It's possible that some of the data is biased in that way, however I know a number of people just submit all of their logs. Given the alternative is to have no information I think we just need to take what we can get. -- Twentypence 12:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for replying. I agree that this information is much better than nothing. I just think it's important to understand that the 95% statistical confidence interval isn't the only measure of certainty to consider. If in fact many people are submitting all of their logs then the data is probably pretty good! Cheers Mouser 15:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

sorcerer loot

based on a hunter's profile:

I checked my trap and found that I had caught a mouse! I caught a 4 oz. Sorcerer mouse from the Acolyte Realm worth 6,197 points and 354 gold.

The mouse also dropped the following loot: 1 Rune.

My weapon was very effective against this mouse.

i'm adding the runes to sorcerer loot in acolyte realm. --Silver123 21:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Black Widow

Today I've seen the Black Widow caught by someone in Acolyte Realm, twice; it dropped SB+ as usual, but no RB in both cases. I looked through the edit history of this article, and it appears that the RB as loot has been added from the very start when the list was compiled. I think it was likely in error. -- camomiletea 23:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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