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*The easiest and probably most sensible solution is to only place the data in a single place: on each mouse's individual page.  An alternative that would take a minor bit of coding and a more significant amount of editor education and monitoring -- and ultimately still might not look very good -- would be to make this page a series of transclusions.  If the individual mice pages were formatted consistently and the infoboxes were kept inside a <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tag so they weren't being included on the page, this idea ''might'' work.  I'm not in favor of it for various reasons, but it's a possibility I might be able to live with.  I think the best idea is to eliminate the two middle columns (Location & Pref. Bait) from the existing table as that info can easily be found (and easily maintained) on each mouse's page.  I think if this were done, it would eliminate the need to separate the prize mice as suggested in a different comment, which I would object to on the grounds that someone looking for a Leprechaun mouse in the list may not necessarily know that it is a prize mouse and thus be confused or frustrated when they can't easily find it.  Sorry for the novella. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 07:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 
*The easiest and probably most sensible solution is to only place the data in a single place: on each mouse's individual page.  An alternative that would take a minor bit of coding and a more significant amount of editor education and monitoring -- and ultimately still might not look very good -- would be to make this page a series of transclusions.  If the individual mice pages were formatted consistently and the infoboxes were kept inside a <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tag so they weren't being included on the page, this idea ''might'' work.  I'm not in favor of it for various reasons, but it's a possibility I might be able to live with.  I think the best idea is to eliminate the two middle columns (Location & Pref. Bait) from the existing table as that info can easily be found (and easily maintained) on each mouse's page.  I think if this were done, it would eliminate the need to separate the prize mice as suggested in a different comment, which I would object to on the grounds that someone looking for a Leprechaun mouse in the list may not necessarily know that it is a prize mouse and thus be confused or frustrated when they can't easily find it.  Sorry for the novella. --&nbsp;[[User:Brossow|B.Rossow]]&nbsp;<sup style='margin-right:-11px'>[[User_talk:Brossow|talk]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Brossow|contr]]</sub> 07:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 
**Can players give some feedback on this? What are you looking for in this page? Or is it just a springboard for you to find the Mouse you want, in which case you should probably type in the short name into the search bar :) Let us know your thoughts about this page so that we can improve it. In my opinion, the mouse description is unnecessary and adds too much bulk to the page. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 11:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 
**Can players give some feedback on this? What are you looking for in this page? Or is it just a springboard for you to find the Mouse you want, in which case you should probably type in the short name into the search bar :) Let us know your thoughts about this page so that we can improve it. In my opinion, the mouse description is unnecessary and adds too much bulk to the page. -- [[User:Grexx|Grexx]] 11:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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**I've been using it to determine where to hunt for particular mice, but now there's [[Cheat Sheet]] for that purpose. [[User:Camomiletea|Camomiletea]] 16:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
  
 
== Mouse Loot Drop Frequency ==
 
== Mouse Loot Drop Frequency ==

Revision as of 16:54, 11 February 2009

Missing High-Res Images

  • I started a topic on the Tavern board requesting Elf, Mobster or Leprechaun images... somebody added the Elf on here, but there was no response to the others. I also sent a personal message to Amy White requesting an image of the Master Burglar, but there was no response from her either. :/ Revengeance 14:24, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Splitting Table into 2 parts

I'm thinking of splitting the table into 2 parts as was the case about a month back, with 1 table listing the common mice and the other the prize/event mice. If so, we'll be splitting 7 of the 46 mice types currently on the page (Black Widow, Elf, Hollowhead, iTunes, Leprechaun, Master Burglar, Mobster). This will make for easier reading and editing as the page is getting a little lengthy and is likely to get longer as more mice are released as the game develops. -- Grexx 07:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Consistency Issues

I've noticed some problems with keeping the Mouse information consistent because there are many pages that need to be updated each time with the same data when something needs to be changed. For example, the Steel Mouse that I had some trouble with earlier was shown on Steel Mouse and The Mice pages to not reside in the Meadow. However on checking Meadow page, it was shown (correctly?) to be so. If anyone can come up with a solution to this issue it would be great. -- Grexx 07:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

  • The easiest and probably most sensible solution is to only place the data in a single place: on each mouse's individual page. An alternative that would take a minor bit of coding and a more significant amount of editor education and monitoring -- and ultimately still might not look very good -- would be to make this page a series of transclusions. If the individual mice pages were formatted consistently and the infoboxes were kept inside a <noinclude> tag so they weren't being included on the page, this idea might work. I'm not in favor of it for various reasons, but it's a possibility I might be able to live with. I think the best idea is to eliminate the two middle columns (Location & Pref. Bait) from the existing table as that info can easily be found (and easily maintained) on each mouse's page. I think if this were done, it would eliminate the need to separate the prize mice as suggested in a different comment, which I would object to on the grounds that someone looking for a Leprechaun mouse in the list may not necessarily know that it is a prize mouse and thus be confused or frustrated when they can't easily find it. Sorry for the novella. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 07:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Can players give some feedback on this? What are you looking for in this page? Or is it just a springboard for you to find the Mouse you want, in which case you should probably type in the short name into the search bar :) Let us know your thoughts about this page so that we can improve it. In my opinion, the mouse description is unnecessary and adds too much bulk to the page. -- Grexx 11:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
    • I've been using it to determine where to hunt for particular mice, but now there's Cheat Sheet for that purpose. Camomiletea 16:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Mouse Loot Drop Frequency

I've noticed that Dave actually added the frequency of loot drops for the various mice (less the more recent forgotten types, quick random example here). I found that to be extremely useful information. Unfortunately, it seems that all that information has been lost in successive edits. I'd like for editors to assist in recovering that information and putting it back into the respective mouse page. Please maintain a completed task list here so that we can avoid duplicating each others' work.

Thus far, I've gone through the history of:

  • Dwarf Mouse (History has been thoroughly checked) -- 14:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Abominable Snow Mouse (No edits by Dave, also thoroughly checked for any lost information) -- 14:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


Editors are advised to look through Dave Vanderburg's edits or the respective mouse page history. Please be aware that Dave is a Developer of MouseHunt so we assume that all information provided by him is correct. -- Grexx 15:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Here's a link to Dave's contributions, in case it helps: Special:Contributions/Dave Vanderburg. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 15:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Just looked at the example you added and it appears that the loot info wasn't completely lost, simply moved to the infobox. Frequency is indeed missing, however. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 16:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Yup it's the frequency info I was referring to. Its invaluable information that Dave has released into the wiki that I'm surprised it was all edited out. We all know how tight they are with revealing certain aspects of gameplay too. I was looking for relevant info regarding the Gnawnia Pages in the Dwarf pages and chanced upon that, and started looking around the other mice and noticed the loss of information. -- Grexx 16:28, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I added drop frequencies for Black Widow, Hollowhead, Zombie, White and Vampire based on Dave's edits.Camomiletea 21:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)