Talk:Cheat Sheet

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New Mice Table Layout

The table is now internally organized such that each mouse is divided into 8 parts:

  • Mouse Description
  • Gnawnia region
  • Whisker Woods region
  • Burroughs region
  • Furoma region
  • Bristle Woods region
  • Rodentia region
  • Tribal Isles region
  • Other regions

Additionally, the color codes for the Prize and Event mice have been flipped to cut down on the code. Cells are now by default shaded blue. Visually there is no change in the table at all. -- Grexx 16:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC) (updated 14:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC))

Added the new regions above. -- Camomiletea 20:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

With the addition of more mice, the mice list is now long enough to warrant additional location segments such that no mouse is without the location header either above or below. Please keep reorganization along alphabetical lines. Have posted this up on MHWiki:Articles_needing_attention. -- Grexx 16:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Does it look good now, or do you think more is necessary? -- Camomiletea 02:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Prize Mice Locations

There is no evidence that suggests prize mice are in all locations. Currently there is none that shows they exist in the Meditation Room and Pinnacle Chamber. The notion that these mice are in all locations was said before these areas were created. --Mase123y 11:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

The cheat sheet doesn't contain any new information. It just aggregates basic information available from the wiki into a single page. So this is probably not the best place to discuss this. --Grexx 14:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I've asked for developer input on this issue as they are ultimately the only ones who can answer. Let's be patient and await a reply. In the meantime, I doubt many people will be hanging out in the MR or PC waiting for a prize mouse based on the info here. -- B.Rossow talkcontr 15:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Generally prize mice are released on all "standard" hunting locations, which exclude places where there are extremely specific mice such as the meditation room and pinnacle chamber. --Dave Vanderburg 01:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Dave! Does the same hold true for "special event" mice like the Cupid, Elf, etc.? -- B.Rossow talkcontr 01:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, and as future "specialized boss-mice" areas are added the same will hold true for them --Dave Vanderburg 02:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
On the Elf and Hollowhead. They were before the Catacombs. Wont it be misleading to say that they could be found there? I think we should remove the respective markers and/or add a note. Thoughts? Shinnok 08:29, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
No more misleading than to say they can be found anywhere, since they're not currently in-game. Let's not worry about it until Halloween at the earliest. :-) -- B.Rossow talkcontr 13:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Cheese (crafted) Redundancy

The Yield column is enough to say the number of pieces crafted, but some of the information is repeated in the Product column. Shouldn't those be revised? Link here. --Mikeyco 09:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Havarti cheese section

IMO, it should be combined with the rest of the "Cheese (crafted)" section rather than put separately. Someone suggested to put the summary of Havarti only on Havarti disambiguation page, and I liked that idea. But here in the cheat sheet it doesn't make sense to break it off and leave the rest of the cheese types all together. Why do we not break off the special Furoma cheese? It should be all one table. At least here. -- Camomiletea 02:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I would like the tables to be combined as well, but with the table being laid out with all the ingedients along the top, the width of the table might be too big. We would have to add Coconut milk, Shell, Stones, Vegies and 7 types of peppers for the 3 island cheeses and the 7 pepper cheeses. this would take the ingredient count from 20 to 31 -- Precisa 03:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Jungle of Dread and Prize/Event mice

It seems to me that Jungle of Dread is similar to Meditation Room where there are only the sort of "boss" mice, and no Black Widows and other event/prize mice. Would you agree? I'd like to remove the shading from that area in the Mice table for the prize/event mice. Dracano by extension might be like Pinnacle Chamber, but we don't know yet. -- Camomiletea 19:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Trap Effectiveness

At a guess, I can sort of see the following equivalents for the effectiveness of power types against the Mouse Groups. This will need to be verified. And of course the "less effective"/"more effective" system is gone, to be replaced by something different... For right now, I'd say we need to remove this section from the Cheat Sheet.


Mouse Group Trap Power Type
Physical Shadow Tactical Arcane Hydro Forgotten Draconic Parental
Indigenous Mice ?
The Derr Tribe ? ?
The Shadow Clan ?
The Dreaded Horde
Furoma Followers ?
The Nerg Plains ? ?
The Forgotten Mice ?
The Forgotten Mice – Acolyte
Balack's Banished
Balack's Banished – Balack
Draconic Brood
Aquatic Order ?
The Elub Tribe ?


-- camomiletea 04:49, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

For now, it serves as a rough guide. However, it is in need of a major overhaul and more research. Draobyek 09:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
I knew I should have done this right way. Because of course someone took this new table as the Absolute Truth and presented it as the evidence on the forums in some dispute over how to catch a Slith. The reputation of the Wiki is such that we cannot put any guesses - and we never have before. It has always been backed up. (People also assume this is the truth because "devs edit the Wiki" - a common misconception.) So again, this is the table as it was before I removed it from the Cheat Sheet. In order for it to be put back, we first need hard data.
Mouse Group Trap Power Type
Physical Shadow Tactical Arcane Hydro Forgotten Draconic Parental
Indigenous Mice ?
Forest Guild ?
Shadow Clan ?
Followers of Furoma ? ?
Forgotten Mice ?
Aquatic Order ?
Derr Tribe ? ?
Nerg Tribe ? ?
Elub Tribe ?
Dreaded Horde
Balack's Banished
Arcane – Acolyte
Arcane – Balack
Arcane – Dragon
Event – Terrible Twos
Legend
▲ – very effective
▬ – normal effectiveness
▼ – less effective


There are exceptions to this table; see Effectiveness page for more information.


-- camomiletea 03:47, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
And finally we have data! Compiled by Paul Humphreys: [1] This may help to update this table, and the Effectiveness page. Woot! -- camomiletea 05:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Orbs

Would be nice if someone threw together a table of which mice carry which orbs for this page. B.Rossow · talk 16:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)