User talk:Dave Vanderburg

Sysop Confirmation

• Hi, I'd just like to confirm whether or not you're a MouseHunt staff or a player volunteering Sysop. Thanks! Eepeng 14:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

If you go to Lore then Game Credits, you will find that Dave Vanderburg appears under game development as a coder/designer of HitGrab. So yes, it is confirmed that Dave is part of MouseHunt's staff. --Peter888 20:32, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism Reporting

Hey Dave.

Wondering if you wouldn't mind if I setup a page where people can report vandals? It's quite non-wiki skilled people friendly too.

What I'll use looks like this ... well, it IS this, I'll just copy/reword to MHWiki and adapt for the images until image uploads are available.

Daworm 03:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Tools Page

I recently found out that the tools page has listed or has had listed some abusive tools, which is why it's not linked to from the main page or links page. What is considered abusive, and can we get rid of them and maintain links to useful, non-abusive tools? Thanks --Navarr 20:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Repeated vandalism by user - please ban

Dave, any chance you can ban Kevster402? Every one of his edits (link) since 15 Nov 2008 has been to vandalize the wiki. Thanks. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 01:13, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

• Please also consider the edits by Madrocker to the Mole Mouse page (see page history) This user continues to remove blocks of legitimate information from the page despite requests to stop or at least discuss the changes. Attempts to contact the user via his Talk page have been met with silence and deletion of said requests. Thanks. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 16:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
  • See Special:Contributions/Ewllakcus -- suggest immediate ban. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 02:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Dave, requesting ban for user User:Righteous for repeated vandalism. User has already been previously warned in User talk:Righteous, thanks. -- Grexx 13:36, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Requesting a quick ban for User:Bookworm Bunsen Burner for repeated vandalism. Please see Special:Contributions/Bookworm_Bunsen_Burner for details.

I concur with Grexx. --Shinnok 06:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Overenthusiastic editor

Hi Dave,

On a couple of occasions I've tried to contribute to this Wiki in order to improve it, but the user Brossrow has seen fit to admonish me for my changes, even though they were a clear improvement. For example, my first edit was changing the title of a page from "Pages", which was quite enigmatic, to "Plankrun's Pages", a clear improvement. But minutes later he changed it, telling me "They are NOT called Plankrun's Pages in-game!" I don't believe that is an appropriate tone for an editor to be taking, and I was quite offended by it.

I then asked him, "Was Plankrun's Pages not a thousand times better than just Pages? If it was so critical to have it exactly right, why didn't you do it before instead of waiting to jump all over the next person who tried to improve it? Editing is one thing, but this is something else entirely. I've made many changes to wikipedia and of course revisions are made on top of mine, but not once have I encountered something like this. Enjoy your little wiki." Brossrow is so clearly possessive of this wiki that I just assumed it was his!

His response to me was, "Yeesh. I can't quantify how much 'better' your page name change was (10x? 100x? 1000x?), but I can tell you it was 100% incorrect. I changed it soon after your move because it showed up at the top of the Recent Changes page, which I check once in awhile [sic] to see what changes are being made. If I see something wrong, I fix it as quickly as possible. Would you have preferred I let it sit for 24 hours so I didn't tread on your toes? You're clearly taking it personally, so maybe it is time you take a break from editing; stress over a game is silly. And by the way, it's not my wiki."

I'm writing to you not to whinge about being wronged or anything like that. But if you look over the history of his talk page, as well as the history of various pages all over the wiki, you will see that this is indicative of a pattern. My concern is that if he is constantly berating people for honestly trying to help, and in fact improving the site (even if the improvement isn't quantifiable), then he will be discouraging other users from ever trying to make contributions. And it is my understanding that wikis are set up so that all members of the community may contribute, and of course improve with time as one user corrects or revises another. But to have a bully who sets himself up as the law of the land is in my opinion highly counterproductive.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I do hope you consider it in the community spirit in which it is offered.

Sincerely,

--robodok 06:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree, he lives on the wiki and seems to remove any edits by other people. his attitude does not seem friendly to other users.

he had a go at me for adding a speechmark (") because there was one missing and it was very confusing to read. He is a self proclaimed "King of the wiki" lol. this wiki should be editable by anybody, and i don't see why one person can make himself the boss.

Fair enough, he has done a nice job of tidying up some of the wiki, but things have gone a bit far now, as people are getting really angry about being patronised and having Brossow's "degrees" pushed in their face if they make a slight mistake or an edit that brossow does not like.

This wiki should be free for anybody who wants to use it.

--Chong McBong 13:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll admit I've had difficulty relating with Brossow at times in the past, but I've never taken our disagreements personally because we're all here to maintain and improve this place. He's done more than anybody else for it and usually knows what he's talking about. If you're thinking about making significant edits like relocating articles, use discussion pages first. Revengeance 13:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Let's be a little more objective here. Robodok has made 2 substantial edits to the wiki so far. First edit was to move Pages to Plankrun's Pages on 13 January. This was ultimately moved to Torn Pages of Plankrun's Journal by Brossow. At no point during this period did Robodok bring up any objection to the changes. 22 January, an edit was made to Mole Mouse. Unfortunately, the edit was made over a very poorly worded edit by Madrocker which overwrote proper text by Brossow. It was subsequently rolled back, and Robodok mistook it as a personal attack, and which started off this chain of events.

Firstly, this issue should never have been brought up to the Admins because it was never properly discussed on the respective Talk pages. If every editor started running to the Admins because they couldn't spend the time to defend or explain the rationale behind their edits, the Admins are really going to have their hands full.

Secondly, some editors need to spend more time learning the tools available in the wiki. A quick browse through the recent history would have revealed that Madrocker's edit to the Mole Mouse page made little sense compared to the previous version. Pointless editing would have been avoided.

Thirdly, Brossow is far from being a bully, but perhaps more willing than the most of us to spend the time and effort to keep the wiki in good shape, and to push his point across. Neither did he make himself the boss, nor is he stopping other editors from making legitimate changes. Of course some might recall the "" incident, which provided some laughs and a reminder to wiki contributors that we sometimes spend too much time over trivial issues.

Lastly, while Brossow might not get an award for the most friendly MH wiki editor, his replies have usually been straight and to the (sometimes wordy) point, and are not directed at the user but rather at the edit. People really, really need to stop taking edits personally. -- Grexx 19:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I've not had any real problems. Perhaps "over enthusiastic" is one way to put it, but you could just say they are being close to OCD/perfectionist on grammar, consistency, or whatever. This is no real problem, a bit invasive when you feel pride in making the last legitimate edit, but nothing striking. -AzureOwl 08:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, end of discussion. --Dave Vanderburg 05:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Catacombs info

Sorry to bug you, Dave, but a detailed description of the Catacombs was recently posted to that page. It seems very hard to believe someone has access to it several days before anyone else and it comes across as a hoax. Can you comment? I don't want to have removed legitimate info, but in the interest of accuracy I pulled the info until we can find out if it's legit. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 02:42, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Greater RB potions inconsistencies

Sorry to bug you, Dave, but I wanted to make sure you were aware of an apparent issue with Greater RB potions. The talk page has links to info, but in a nutshell it seems that the number the game says will be created and the number that are actually created are not the same. Thanks! -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 15:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

This is a known bug that we have in our tracking system still. --Dave Vanderburg 16:52, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Loot FAQ - Loot Drop Frequency

Hi Dave, there's a question on the FAQ that I feel is carrying inaccurate information and would like your input as it is impossible for any player to verify. It's the first question under the Loot section here. Explaining loot drops, there's a portion that reads:

"... It's the fact that thousands of players join MH every day, adding to the numbers, and the percentage of mice who drop loot stay the same, so over time, thousands of other players are catching the mice that drop loot. Thus, as the number of MH players grows, the number of mice you catch with loot naturally becomes more infrequent."

It contradicts the loot frequency information that you had mentioned on the various Mouse pages, which implies that loot is based on a chance roll on each mouse catch. -- Grexx 17:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I have removed that reference in the FAQ. The number of players in a location/the game has absolutely no effect on the odds of getting loot. It's all just dice-rolls, meaning there is no "finite number" of mice or loot per location. --Dave Vanderburg 16:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Prize mice locations?

Dave, could you offer input on the question raised here about where prize mice can be found? Only a dev can say for sure whether or not the info currently posted is correct or not. Thanks! -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 14:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Just a quick summary of the question: Prize and event mice are currently listed as being in every location. Some players are just wondering if they do appear in the Meditation Room and Pinnacle Chamber (Due to location information predating the launch of the locations by some time). -- Grexx 17:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Page protection

Just wanted to ping you and recommend protecting at least some of the pages in the MHWiki namespace. A discussion at MHWiki talk:Copyrights prompted this note. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 16:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

It was in no way my intention to mess with anything, I just made the comment that we need a copyright page and pointed to the general rules of the most known wiki. --Meurquidi 16:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the concern Brossow. There are indeed quite a few "administrative" tasks that need to be looked after but the tight content-production schedule at the moment is limited our time. --Dave Vanderburg 01:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem. It was just a heads-up to prevent problems with evildoers, not well-meaning editors like Meurquidi. :-) -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 01:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Problems Saving Edits

Hi Dave, not sure if you're aware of it, but many of the editors have been having problems saving pages or getting logged out. Its been happening sporadically over the past 2 months, and lately it seems to be getting worse.

Clicking on the "Show preview" and "Show changes" buttons still activate correctly, but "Save page" just doesn't. I've been using something of a workaround for the past month. I found that by trying to save every few seconds, it will eventually get through. Not very ideal though, since it can sometimes take up to a minute or more to get through.

The error message:
Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in.
-- Grexx 11:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I cleared my browser chache and cookies and I'm able to edit stuff freely now. I dunno if this is a permanent or temporary solution! Help! Shinnok 11:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

It's just coincidence if that's working for you. I've done all that plus used multiple browsers on multiple computers at home, some of which I had never previously used to access the wiki, and the issue persists. it seems to be tied to IP address rather than login as if I go through an anonymous web proxy from the same computer I can edit without issue. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 13:47, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

You may need to update your bookmark to http://mhwiki.hitgrab.com/wiki/ instead of the mousehunt.hitgrab.com one. We changed the way we load balance the wiki. --Dave Vanderburg 03:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hacked Account

Hello. Yesterday I wrote to support and moushunt forum about my "hacked" account and plundering of Super Blue. Still no response from anyone and I don't know what to take. I hope to have development. Please see my logs. I apologize for the oppression and thanks in advance. Greetings

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1574226570&ref=profile

French MH Wiki

Hello

I'm a french woman and I began to translate some Wiki's pages into French:

Hunting Sequence fr‎, Cor de chasse‎, Points fr‎, fromage, souris.

I linked every page with the english one. Moreover, I let all the Internal link, and will change them in time with the french translation.

Grexx ask me to check and confirm with the developers before continuing.

Am I permitted to continue?

heartily, BastetAmidala 14:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

"Should there start to be several different languages added into the same wiki pages such as recent changes would become very cluttered"

I don't add the different languages into the same wiki pages, I create a new page and I just create a link to this page in the English one. After that I won't have to update the English page any more, so one page in a different language <-> two recent change (and sorry, today I cluttered the "recent changes page", I was fitting into the Wiki).

"Should there come a time when we have enough French speaking contributors and readers of the wiki we will investigate adding a new wiki at that time."

But I know a lot of French people who don't play because they don’t understand English. They will never read English wiki but could be interested into a French one.

I understand you don't now want a French wiki, but will my articles stay? Can I post the two others that I've translate?

(I hope my English is not too bad). Heartily, BastetAmidala 22:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Bait Preference

In the talk pages for mice http://mhwiki.hitgrab.com/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Mice&oldid=74416 I see where you indicated "Black Widow, Burglar (and normal brie), Mobster, Leprechaun and all Furoma Students" and "The difference between these mice and others when it comes to preferred bait is that other types of cheese work fine, but when using SB+ their 'encounter probability' goes up by ten to twenty-five percent. --Dave Vanderburg 12:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)"

Most mice seem to be more attracted to SuperBrie - with the amount of the attraction bonus varying from location to location. Some mice like the Black Widow seem especially attracted to SuperBrie. It seems like all the mice in the Dojo (not just the Furoma Students) have the same attraction to SuperBrie cheese. So this could mean one of two things - that Furoma Students are attracted to SuperBrie cheese - but just in the same way that all mice like this cheese better - or that all the mice in Dujo have the same encounter probability bonus - so the Furoma Students don't stand out.

I am going through the Wiki and trying to clean up misinformation around Bait Preference - so any information that you would be willing to share would be appreciated. Thanks a bunch. -- Ralphminer 21:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandal - please block

Please check Special:Contributions/Jonathan37 and consider blocking this user. Massive vandalism. Thanks. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 11:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

• Ditto above for Special:Contributions/Dragonyong. Widespread, overt vandalism this morning. -- B.Rossow ^talk_contr 10:41, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

• Requesting speedy ban for Special:Contributions/Bobby101. Tantrum throwing vandal who conducted an edit war and thereafter outright vandalism when he didn't get his way. -- Grexx 12:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Image Bank

Hi Dave, would like to check with you if it is okay that we store the full set of image links for the various game items directly from the MH servers as a form of backup under MHWiki:Image Bank. These links will be for editors' use only, and will be classed under the MHWiki:Editor's Corner, and are meant to be used only for quick recovery in case any of the current external image links go down. As per current practice, links on all other articles will continue to be of external sites. Full details of the discussion can be found -here-. -- Grexx 15:24, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

'Special' power type

Hi Dave,

There is confusion about the power type of the festive mice, could it be possible if you could elucidate? Talk:Festive_Comet

Many thanks. WyndStryke 15:41, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Power types of mice are being slightly depreciated as a move to "mouse weaknesses" is being slowly implemented. For the moment they can be considered as Physical mice. --Dave Vanderburg 12:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Elf Mouse 2009

Hi Dave, it'd be great if we can get your input on the Elf Mouse and its bait preference, and any other possible changes from its previous release in 2008. Currently it appears to show an inclination towards SUPER|brie+, but previously none was listed, so we're kind of hesitant to make any changes. -- Grexx 18:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

In the Festive Comet the use of SUPER|brie+ lowers the encounter rate for "less desirable" mice, giving an side-effect of a slightly boosted encounter rate for Elf mice. The mouse itself is attracted to all bait types. --Dave Vanderburg 12:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Rank Advancement

Hi Dave, there's a section under the article Hunter's Title, about the rank advancement formula. As with all game formulas, there is no way for players to say conclusively either ways whether it is accurate or not, so was hoping you'd give it a run through on facts and accuracy. Thanks! -- Grexx 12:38, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I've looked through it and it is somewhat close to the system used. A future update is being planned to make level progression more clear to players at which point some minor aspects of how level progression works may change slightly. Due to it possibly being slightly changed in the future, I am not able to currently comment on what specific points of the wiki article are correct and which are incorrect. --Dave Vanderburg 12:07, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Suggested Editor List

Hi, Dave. There are a few users interested in being the Wiki editors, that either have been helpful in the past or are currently trying to help out via the forums suggestion thread. Could you please look through this list and grant the privileges as you see fit? Thank you! -- camomiletea 19:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Dave, there's a recommended editor in the list that you might have missed. User:Miranda is interested in contributing to the wiki too :) -- Grexx 09:10, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Dave, there are a few more people who expressed interest in editing the Wiki, including User:The Grand Inn, User:Aryst0krat and User:S18067. Additionally, I beg you to please establish a process whereby hunters can get Wiki-editing rights. The current situation is not acceptable, because of the many edits required with the new updates and the lack of active editors (because some only do minor edits, others get burned out, still others get busy elsewhere in real life, others move on, some only pop up rarely). We need a steady inflow of new people in order to maintain the quality of the Wiki. Otherwise eventually, it might happen that the Wiki will not get updated and will be useless. -- camomiletea 03:10, 1 July 2010 (UTC)