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Potions

A potion is a form of loot dropped by mice. By using these potions in your inventory, you can convert cheese into more valuable cheese with better attraction rates or, more likely, special cheese, used for specific regions or mice. Conversion rate with respect to the quantities of cheese used to cheese generated is always 1:1 (the amount of cheese used is the same as the amount of the more valuable or special cheese produced). Using a potion may use up gold in the process. Using higher quality cheese generally will decrease the cost of conversion and increase the quantity converted. The hunter's title also affects the amount of cheese converted for some potions.

Suggested Strategies

Source cheese selection

For most conversions (exceptions being Brie and Greater Brie potions), it is not possible to accurately say which method is the most cost-effective.

When potions are relatively scarce (such as Radioactive Blue Potions), the opportunity cost of finding far fewer potions makes the higher quality cheese the better investment for many people despite the relatively high market cost. However, the "best choice" is ultimately determined by each hunter's personal preference and priorities.

Some potions (such as Ancient Potion and Runic Potion) produce cheese that can also be crafted at a lower cost than the conversion. In this case, the hunter will need to make the choice between crafting and using potions based on the availability of the crafting ingredients versus the availability of the potions, again keeping in mind opportunity cost.

Since the cheese used in the conversion process of Brie Potion and Greater Brie Potion can all be bought, the only factor in which cheese to use for conversion should be the the total profit calculated based on value of converted Brie minus the vendor cost of the cheese used. For converting Brie Potions, the best choice is using Swiss. For Greater Brie Potions, the best choice is using Marble.

How many to convert

If the conversion process requires gold or the hunter's title affects the amount of cheese generated, a suggested strategy is not converting all the potions at once. Instead the hunter may wish to convert just enough for the current hunting period, and bring along a supply of the cheese to be converted later, as the hunter earns more gold or reaches the next rank and can gain from the better conversion rates.

Insufficient cheese for conversion

Hunters are cautioned that they will be able to carry out a conversion even if they do not have enough cheese to fully utilize the potion.

Using a Radioactive Blue Cheese Potion for example, if a Grandmaster only has 15 SUPER|brie+ on hand, he will be able to convert that 15 SUPER|brie+ into 15 Radioactive Blue cheese. However this results in a loss of 20 potential Radioactive Blue cheese (from a maximum possible of 35), and is a waste considering the difficulty in obtaining potions. Thus converting potions when short of the source cheese is not recommended.

Conversion Charts

Gnawnia

Brie Potion

Cheese Used	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Vendor Cost	Conversion Cost	Resale Value	Net Profit
Cheddar	150	10	100	1,500	2,000	400
Marble	100	15	750	1,500	3,000	750
Swiss	50	20	2,000	1,000	4,000	1,000

Brie Potions are dropped by:
– Bionic in the Harbour and Mountain.
– Cherry mice in the Calm Clearing.

Greater Brie Potion

Cheese Used	# Converted	Vendor Cost	Resale Value	Net Profit
Cheddar	8	80	1,600	1,520
Marble	12	600	2,400	1,800
Swiss	16	1,600	3,200	1,600

Greater Brie Potions can only be obtained from:
   – Cherry mice in the Calm Clearing.
   – Gifts dropped by Abominable Snow mice around Christmas 2008.
   – Gifts dropped by Elf mice around Christmas 2008.
   – Glitchpaw mice in the Bazaar and Mountain.

Valour

Gauntlet Potions

Gauntlet Potions are dropped by mice in the King's Gauntlet. Imbuing ordinary cheese with these potions results in Gauntlet Cheeses. At each level of the Gauntlet, mice drop potions that create cheese capable of catching mice at the next level of the Gauntlet. For example, tier 2 mice drop Gauntlet Potion Tier 3 used to create Gauntlet Cheese Tier 3 that attracts tier 3 mice. Thus, collecting potions is key to progressing through the Gauntlet.

	Using Marble		Using Swiss		Using Brie		Using Gouda		Using SUPER\|brie+
Potion/Cheese Tier	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted
Tier 2	10	2	25	4	—	—	—	—	0	6
Tier 3	25	4	50	5	—	—	—	—	0	7
Tier 4	—	—	150	3	150	4	—	—	100	6
Tier 5	—	—	800	2	800	4	—	—	250	5
Tier 6	—	—	—	—	1,000	3	—	—	500	4
Tier 7	—	—	—	—	1,500	2	—	—	900	3
Tier 8	—	—	—	—	—	—	15,000	1	2,000	1

Whisker Woods

Cherry Potion

	Using SUPER\|brie+		Using Brie
Hunter's Title	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted
Journeyman	0	8	300	2
Master	0	10	300	3
Grandmaster	0	12	300	4
Legendary – Count/Countess	0	14	300	5

Cherry Potions are dropped by these mice in the Calm Clearing:
   – Cherry
   – Cyclops
   – Eagle Owl

Gnarled Potion

	Using SUPER\|brie+		Using Brie
Hunter's Title	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted
Master	0	20	400	5
Grandmaster	0	24	400	6
Legendary	0	28	400	7
Hero	0	32	400	8
Knight	0	36	400	9
Lord/Lady	0	40	400	10
Baron/Baroness – Count/Countess	0	44	400	11

Gnarled Potions are dropped by these mice in the Great Gnarled Tree:
   – Bear
   – Centaur
   – Frog
   – Chameleon

Wicked Gnarly Potion

Cheese Used	Gold (ea)	# Converted
SUPER\|brie+	200	6
Brie	800	3

Burroughs and Bristle Woods

Radioactive Blue Cheese Potion

	Using SUPER\|brie+		Using Brie
Hunter's Title	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted
Master	0	30	300	10
Grandmaster	0	35	300	12
Legendary	0	40	300	14
Hero	0	45	300	16
Knight	0	50	300	18
Lord/Lady	0	55	300	20
Baron/Baroness – Count/Countess	0	60	300	20

Radioactive Blue Cheese Potions are dropped by these mice in the Laboratory:
   – Bionic mice.
   – Granite mice.
   – Steel mice.

Note: During Ronza's visit in October 2009 it was possible for hunters of all ranks to obtain this potion even outside the Burroughs region through Ronza's Satchel of Surprise.

Greater Radioactive Blue Potion

	Using SUPER\|brie+		Using Brie
Hunter's Title	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted
Master	0	40	300	30
Grandmaster	0	?	300	?
Legendary	0	56	300	42
Hero	0	64	300	48
Knight	0	72	300	54
Lord/Lady	0	80	300	60
Baron/Baroness	0	88	300	66
Count/Countess	0	96	300	72

Greater Radioactive Blue Potions are dropped by:
– Monster mice in the Laboratory and the Catacombs.
– Vampire mice in the Mousoleum.

Corrupted Radioactive Blue Potion

	Using SUPER\|brie+		Using Brie
Hunter's Title	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted
Legendary	309	30	613	10
Hero	309	33	613	11
Knight	309	36	613	12
Lord/Lady	309	39	613	13
Baron/Baroness	309	42	613	14
Count/Countess	309	45	613	15

Corrupted Radioactive Blue Potions are dropped by:
– Keeper mice in the Catacombs.
– Scavenger mice in the Catacombs and the Forbidden Grove.

Bristle Woods

Ancient Potion

	Using SUPER\|brie+		Using Brie
Hunter's Title	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted
Legendary	800	6	1900	3
Hero	800	8	1900	4
Knight	800	10	1900	5
Lord/Lady	800	12	1900	6
Baron/Baroness	800	14	1900	7
Count/Countess	800	16	1900	8

Outcome	Ancient
Description	Using a Ancient Cheese Curd Potion converts either Brie or SUPER\|brie+ cheese into Ancient cheese, which is commonly used in the Forbidden Grove.
Dropped By	Scavenger	Catacombs Forbidden Grove
	Keeper	Catacombs
	Keeper's Assistant	Catacombs

Runic Potion

	Using SUPER\|brie+		Using Gouda
Hunter's Title	Gold (ea)	# Converted	Gold (ea)	# Converted
Hero	1000	6	2400	3
Knight	1000	8	2400	4
Lord/Lady	1000	10	2400	5
Baron/Baroness – Count/Countess	1000	12	2400	6

Runic Potions are dropped by:
   – Chitinous mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Fetid Swamp mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Jurassic mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Magma Carrier mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Stonework Warrior mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Primal mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Realm Ripper mice in the Forbidden Grove

Tower Amplifier

The Tower Amplifier is a game element that is first found upon traveling to the Seasonal Garden and is also used in the Zugzwang's Tower. In the Seasonal Garden the amplifier is charged, and then in the Zugzwang's Tower affects the power and luck of the hunter's trap, giving a bonus when fully charged, or decreasing them as it's being depleted.

Charging or Depleting

In the Seasonal Garden, the percentage of the Tower Amplifier increases by a different percentage depending on the mouse caught. The more the mouse is worth in points, the more the percentage gained will be, as seen in the Seasonal Garden Mice table.

Upon moving to Zugzwang's Tower, the Tower Amplifier decreases for every successful catch, with percentages following the points used in chess, as seen in the Zugzwang's Tower Mice table.

In both locations, failing to attract a mouse will decrease the Tower Amplifier's percentage by 3%. Failing to catch a mouse will not affect the Tower Amplifier.

Moving out of Zugzwang's Tower will reset the percentage to 0%. Traveling out of the Seasonal Garden will not affect the Tower Amplifier's percentage.

Maximum Charge Percentages

The maximum percentage of the Tower Amplifier increases with the hunter's rank.

Strategy

Common Questions

To update FAQ. Suggestions.

I'm thinking of adding a Travel section or something along those lines to answer: How do I get to Tier 2 of King's Gauntlet? I have a Keeper's Candle(Balack's Lantern), why can't I travel to Forbidden Grove(Balack's Cove)? How do I travel to Acolyte Realm?
"Is x temporary or permanent" - guaranteed to be out of date soon, but I think it's a good idea anyway.
"Can acolyte be caught with acronym?" good one, I'll be sure to include it.
"Where to farm scrap metals?" good question, will fit nicely in the Loot section.
Gorgon vs. Clock vs. BG -- ah, well I don't know the answer to that one yet. Obviously NOT BG. Gorgon is too new... but I'll keep it in mind when the forum consensus arises, or when there's a MH Analytics article etc.
"When did the Nibbler go away?" sounds good.
What are the givable items?
Best place to farm gold/points crops up very often. And it would be different answer per rank.

Trivia

New Mice Weaknesses (vs. Mice Power Types)

Common Mice
Forest Dwellers
The Shadow Clan
Followers of Furoma
The Forgotten Mice
Aquatic Order (physical weapons - normal, hydro - effective)
The Elub Tribe (physical weapons - less effective, hydro - effective)
The Nerg Tribe
The Derr Tribe
The Dreaded Horde
Draconic Brood

Video Mice

Mice that appeared in time-elapsed painting videos: Golem, Keeper, Keeper's Assistant, Centaur, Harpy,Mermouse, Longtail

Female Mice

Mice that are female in appearance:

Master Mice

Master mice: Master Burglar, Master of the Dojo, Master of the Cheese Belt, Master of the Cheese Claw, Master of the Cheese Fang.

Flying Mice

Flying mice: Bat, Cupid, Eagle Owl, Fairy, Harpy, Briegull, Flying

Lycan or Mole for Furoma Map

Mouse	Mouse Difficulty	Mouse Rarity	Drop Rarity	Value of other mice in location
Mole	Easy	Semi-rare	Extremely Rare	Low
Lycan	Difficult	Semi-rare	Frequent	High

Cheese IDs

32 - Spicy Havarti
31 - Pungent Havarti
30 - Creamy Havarti
29 - Magical Havarti
28 - Crunchy Havarti
27 - Sweet Havarti
?Crunchy
25 - Gumbo
24 - Shell
23 - Gouda
22 - Runic
21 - Ancient
20 - Gnarled
19 - Maki
18 - White Cheddar
17 - Rumble
16 - Combat
15 - Susheese
14 - Glutter
13 - Moon
12 - Radioactive Blue
11 - Super|brie+
10 - Brie
06 - Swiss
02 - Marble
01 - Cheddar

Crafting List

Taken from the source

1: Susheese
2: Glutter Cheese
3: Combat Cheese
4: Master's Seal
5: Rumble Cheese (3 pieces)
6: Rumble Cheese (1 piece)
7: White Cheddar
8: Ambush Trap
9: Dehydration Base
10: Maki
11: Superbrie +
12: Obelisk of Incineration
13: Ancient Cheese (3 pieces)
14: Ancient Cheese (6 pieces)
15: Runic Cheese (1 piece)
16: Runic Cheese (2 pieces)
17: Arcane Capturing Rod Of Never Yielding Mystery
18: Obelisk of Slumber
19: Moon
20: Partybot
21: Mouse DeathBot
50: S.S. Huntington II
51: Unchristened Ship
52: Christened Ship
53: Shell Cheese (15 pieces)
54: Gumbo Cheese (15 pieces)
55: Crunchy Cheese (15 pieces)
56: Harpoon Gun
? Net Cannon
58: DrillBot
? Venus Mouse Trap
? Mutated Venus Mouse Trap
61: Thorned Venus Mouse Trap
? Thorned Venus Mouse Trap (reconstitution recipe)
63: Horrific Venus Mouse Trap
64: Ancient Spear Gun
? RhinoBot
66: Magical Blue Pepper Plant
67: Crunchy Green Pepper Plant
68: Creamy Orange Pepper Plant
69: Pungent Purple Pepper Plant
70: Spicy Red Pepper Plant
71: Sweet Yellow Pepper Plant
72: Inferno Pepper Plant
73: Ocean Navigation Kit
74: Spicy Havarti (6 pieces)
75: Pungent Havarti (6 pieces)
76: Creamy Havarti (6 pieces)
77: Magical Havarti (6 pieces)
78: Crunchy Havarti (6 pieces)
79: Sweet Havarti (6 pieces)
? Ancient Box Trap Blueprints
? Ancient Box Trap
}
} tournament bases? (saw spoilers about 3 different ones)
}
? unknown
86: Shell Cheese (20 pieces)
87: Gumbo Cheese (20 pieces)
88: Crunchy Cheese (20 pieces)

recipes are assumed to be listed in chronological programming order.
suspected recipes (ones I haven't crafted or known about before) marked with ?
4 possible unknown recipes

Region/Location IDs

REGION:Gnawnia=1
REGION:Burroughs=2
REGION:Furoma=3
REGION:Bristle Woods=4
REGION:Whisker Woods=5
REGION:Rodentia=6
REGION:Tribal Isles=7

Town of Gnawnia=1
Meadow=2
Harbour=3
Mountain=4
Laboratory=7
Town of Digby=8
Mousoleum=9
Training Grounds=11
Bazaar=13
Dojo=14
Meditation Room=15
Pinnacle Chamber=16
Catacombs=17
Forbidden Grove=18
Acolyte Realm=20
Great Gnarled Tree=22
Calm Clearing=23
Lagoon=24
S.S. Huntington II=25
Cape Clawed=26
Elub Shore=27
Nerg Plains=28
Derr Dunes=30
Jungle of Dread=31
Dracano=32

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