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Potions

A potion is a form of loot dropped by mice. By using these potions in your inventory, you can convert cheese into more valuable cheese with better attraction rates or, more likely, special cheese, used for specific regions or mice. Conversion rate with respect to the quantities of cheese used to cheese generated is always 1:1 (the amount of cheese used is the same as the amount of the more valuable or special cheese produced). Using a potion may use up gold in the process. Using higher quality cheese generally will decrease the cost of conversion and increase the quantity converted. The hunter's title also affects the amount of cheese converted for some potions.

Suggested Strategies

Source cheese selection

For most conversions (exceptions being Brie and Greater Brie potions), it is not possible to accurately say which method is the most cost-effective.

  • When potions are relatively scarce (such as Radioactive Blue Potions), the opportunity cost of finding far fewer potions makes the higher quality cheese the better investment for many people despite the relatively high market cost. However, the "best choice" is ultimately determined by each hunter's personal preference and priorities.
  • Some potions (such as Ancient Potion and Runic Potion) produce cheese that can also be crafted at a lower cost than the conversion. In this case, the hunter will need to make the choice between crafting and using potions based on the availability of the crafting ingredients versus the availability of the potions, again keeping in mind opportunity cost.
  • Since the cheese used in the conversion process of Brie Potion and Greater Brie Potion can all be bought, the only factor in which cheese to use for conversion should be the total profit calculated based on value of converted Brie minus the vendor cost (or refund value if obtained from loot) of the cheese used. For converting Brie Potions, the best choice is using Swiss. For Greater Brie Potions, the best choice is using Marble.

How many to convert

If the conversion process requires gold or the hunter's title affects the amount of cheese generated, a suggested strategy is not converting all the potions at once. Instead the hunter may wish to convert just enough for the current hunting period, and bring along a supply of the cheese to be converted later, as the hunter earns more gold or reaches the next rank and can gain from the better conversion rates.

Insufficient cheese for conversion

Hunters are cautioned that they will be able to carry out a conversion even if they do not have enough cheese to fully utilize the potion.

Using a Radioactive Blue Cheese Potion for example, if a Grandmaster only has 15 SUPER|brie+ on hand, he will be able to convert that 15 SUPER|brie+ into 15 Radioactive Blue cheese. However this results in a loss of 20 potential Radioactive Blue cheese (from a maximum possible of 35), and is a waste considering the difficulty in obtaining potions. Thus converting potions when short of the source cheese is not recommended.

Conversion Charts

Gnawnia

Brie Potion

Cheese Used Gold (ea) #
Converted
Vendor
Cost
Conversion
Cost
Resale
Value
Net Profit
Cheddar 150 10 100 1,500 2,000 400
Marble 100 15 750 1,500 3,000 750
Swiss 50 20 2,000 1,000 4,000 1,000
Outcome Brie
Description Using a Brie Alchemy Potion converts either Cheddar, Marble, or Swiss cheese into Brie cheese.
Dropped By Bionic Harbour
Mountain
Cherry Calm Clearing


Greater Brie Potion

Cheese Used Gold (ea) #
Converted
Vendor
Cost
Conversion
Cost
Resale
Value
Net Profit
Cheddar 0 8 80 0 1,600 1,520
Marble 0 12 600 0 2,400 1,800
Swiss 0 16 1,600 0 3,200 1,600
Outcome Brie
Description Using a Greater Brie Alchemy Potion converts either Cheddar, Marble, or Swiss cheese into Brie cheese.
Dropped By Cherry Calm Clearing
Glitchpaw Bazaar
Mountain


Valour

Gauntlet Potions

Gauntlet Potions are dropped by mice in the King's Gauntlet. Imbuing ordinary cheese with these potions results in Gauntlet Cheeses. At each level of the Gauntlet, mice drop potions that create cheese capable of catching mice at the next level of the Gauntlet. For example, tier 2 mice drop Gauntlet Potion Tier 3 used to create Gauntlet Cheese Tier 3 that attracts tier 3 mice. Thus, collecting potions is key to progressing through the Gauntlet.

Using Marble Using Swiss Using Brie Using Gouda Using SUPER|brie+
Potion/Cheese
Tier
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Tier 2 10 2 25 4 0 6
Tier 3 25 4 50 5 0 7
Tier 4 150 3 150 4 100 6
Tier 5 800 2 800 4 250 5
Tier 6 1,000 3 500 4
Tier 7 1,500 2 900 3
Tier 8 15,000 1 2,000 1
Name Gauntlet Potion Tier 2 Gauntlet Potion Tier 3 Gauntlet Potion Tier 4 Gauntlet Potion Tier 5 Gauntlet Potion Tier 6 Gauntlet Potion Tier 7 Gauntlet Potion Tier 8
Outcome Gauntlet Cheese Tier 2 Gauntlet Cheese Tier 3 Gauntlet Cheese Tier 4 Gauntlet Cheese Tier 5 Gauntlet Cheese Tier 6 Gauntlet Cheese Tier 7 Gauntlet Cheese Tier 8
Dropped By Tier 1: Tier 2: Tier 3: Tier 4: Tier 5: Tier 6: Tier 7:

Whisker Woods

Cherry Potion

Using SUPER|brie+ Using Brie
Hunter's Title Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Journeyman 0 8 300 2
Master 0 10 300 3
Grandmaster 0 12 300 4
Legendary – Count/Countess 0 14 300 5
Outcome Cherry
Dropped By Eagle Owl Calm Clearing
Cherry Calm Clearing
Cyclops Calm Clearing


Gnarled Potion

Using SUPER|brie+ Using Brie
Hunter's Title Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Master 0 20 400 5
Grandmaster 0 24 400 6
Legendary 0 28 400 7
Hero 0 32 400 8
Knight 0 36 400 9
Lord/Lady 0 40 400 10
Baron/Baroness – Count/Countess 0 44 400 11

Gnarled Potions are dropped by these mice in the Great Gnarled Tree:
   – Bear
   – Centaur
   – Frog
   – Chameleon

Wicked Gnarly Potion

Cheese Used Gold (ea) #
Converted
SUPER|brie+ 200 6
Brie 800 3

Burroughs and Bristle Woods

Radioactive Blue Cheese Potion

Using SUPER|brie+ Using Brie
Hunter's Title Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Master 0 30 300 10
Grandmaster 0 35 300 12
Legendary 0 40 300 14
Hero 0 45 300 16
Knight 0 50 300 18
Lord/Lady 0 55 300 20
Baron/Baroness – Count/Countess 0 60 300 20

Radioactive Blue Cheese Potions are dropped by these mice in the Laboratory:
   – Bionic mice.
   – Granite mice.
   – Steel mice.

Note: During Ronza's visit in October 2009 it was possible for hunters of all ranks to obtain this potion even outside the Burroughs region through Ronza's Satchel of Surprise.

Greater Radioactive Blue Potion

Using SUPER|brie+ Using Brie
Hunter's Title Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Master 0 40 300 30
Grandmaster 0 ? 300 ?
Legendary 0 56 300 42
Hero 0 64 300 48
Knight 0 72 300 54
Lord/Lady 0 80 300 60
Baron/Baroness 0 88 300 66
Count/Countess 0 96 300 72

Greater Radioactive Blue Potions are dropped by:
   – Monster mice in the Laboratory and the Catacombs.
   – Vampire mice in the Mousoleum.

Corrupted Radioactive Blue Potion

Using SUPER|brie+ Using Brie
Hunter's Title Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Legendary 309 30 613 10
Hero 309 33 613 11
Knight 309 36 613 12
Lord/Lady 309 39 613 13
Baron/Baroness 309 42 613 14
Count/Countess 309 45 613 15

Corrupted Radioactive Blue Potions are dropped by:
   – Keeper mice in the Catacombs.
   – Scavenger mice in the Catacombs and the Forbidden Grove.

Bristle Woods

Ancient Potion

Using SUPER|brie+ Using Brie
Hunter's Title Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Legendary 800 6 1900 3
Hero 800 8 1900 4
Knight 800 10 1900 5
Lord/Lady 800 12 1900 6
Baron/Baroness 800 14 1900 7
Count/Countess – Duke/Duchess 800 16 1900 8
Outcome Ancient
Description Using a Ancient Cheese Curd Potion converts either Brie or SUPER|brie+ cheese into Ancient cheese, which is commonly used in the Forbidden Grove.
Dropped By Scavenger Catacombs
Forbidden Grove
Keeper Catacombs
Keeper's Assistant Catacombs


Runic Potion

Using SUPER|brie+ Using Gouda
Hunter's Title Gold (ea) #
Converted
Gold (ea) #
Converted
Hero 1000 6 2400 3
Knight 1000 8 2400 4
Lord/Lady 1000 10 2400 5
Baron/Baroness – Count/Countess 1000 12 2400 6

Runic Potions are dropped by:
   – Chitinous mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Fetid Swamp mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Jurassic mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Magma Carrier mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Stonework Warrior mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Primal mice in the Jungle of Dread
   – Realm Ripper mice in the Forbidden Grove

See Also

  • Hunter's Title — Information about the hunters' titles, and what each unlocks
  • Cheese — General information about cheese, including ways to obtain and their use
  • Crafted cheese — Recipes for the crafted cheese

Tower Amplifier

The Tower Amplifier is a game element that is first found upon traveling to the Seasonal Garden and is also used in the Zugzwang's Tower. In the Seasonal Garden the amplifier is charged, and then in the Zugzwang's Tower affects the power and luck of the hunter's trap, giving a bonus when fully charged, or decreasing them as it's being depleted.

Charging or Depleting

In the Seasonal Garden, the percentage of the Tower Amplifier increases by a different percentage depending on the mouse caught. The more the mouse is worth in points, the more the percentage gained will be, as seen in the Seasonal Garden Mice table.

Upon moving to Zugzwang's Tower, the Tower Amplifier decreases for every successful catch, with percentages following the points used in chess, as seen in the Zugzwang's Tower Mice table.

In both locations, failing to attract a mouse will decrease the Tower Amplifier's percentage by 3%. Failing to catch a mouse will not affect the Tower Amplifier.

Moving out of Zugzwang's Tower will reset the percentage to 0%. Traveling out of the Seasonal Garden will not affect the Tower Amplifier's percentage.

Maximum Charge Percentages

The maximum percentage of the Tower Amplifier increases with the hunter's rank.

Strategy

See Also

Common Questions

To update FAQ. Suggestions.

  1. I'm thinking of adding a Travel section or something along those lines to answer: How do I get to Tier 2 of King's Gauntlet? I have a Keeper's Candle(Balack's Lantern), why can't I travel to Forbidden Grove(Balack's Cove)? How do I travel to Acolyte Realm?
  2. "Is x temporary or permanent" - guaranteed to be out of date soon, but I think it's a good idea anyway.
  3. "Can acolyte be caught with acronym?" good one, I'll be sure to include it.
  4. "Where to farm scrap metals?" good question, will fit nicely in the Loot section.
  5. Gorgon vs. Clock vs. BG -- ah, well I don't know the answer to that one yet. Obviously NOT BG. Gorgon is too new... but I'll keep it in mind when the forum consensus arises, or when there's a MH Analytics article etc.
  6. "When did the Nibbler go away?" sounds good.
  7. What are the givable items?
  8. Best place to farm gold/points crops up very often. And it would be different answer per rank.

Trivia

New Mice Weaknesses (vs. Mice Power Types)

  • Common Mice
  • Forest Dwellers
  • The Shadow Clan
  • Followers of Furoma
  • The Forgotten Mice
  • Aquatic Order (physical weapons - normal, hydro - effective)
  • The Elub Tribe (physical weapons - less effective, hydro - effective)
  • The Nerg Tribe
  • The Derr Tribe
  • The Dreaded Horde
  • Draconic Brood

Video Mice

Mice that appeared in time-elapsed painting videos: Golem, Keeper, Keeper's Assistant, Centaur, Harpy,Mermouse, Longtail, Siren

Female Mice

Mice that are female in appearance:

Master Mice

Master mice: Master Burglar, Master of the Dojo, Master of the Cheese Belt, Master of the Cheese Claw, Master of the Cheese Fang.

Flying Mice

Flying mice: Bat, Cupid, Eagle Owl, Fairy, Harpy, Briegull, Flying

Lycan or Mole for Furoma Map

MouseMouse DifficultyMouse RarityDrop RarityValue of other mice
in location
MoleEasySemi-rareExtremely RareLow
LycanDifficultSemi-rareFrequentHigh

Cheese IDs

  • 32 - Spicy Havarti
  • 31 - Pungent Havarti
  • 30 - Creamy Havarti
  • 29 - Magical Havarti
  • 28 - Crunchy Havarti
  • 27 - Sweet Havarti
  •  ?Crunchy
  • 25 - Gumbo
  • 24 - Shell
  • 23 - Gouda
  • 22 - Runic
  • 21 - Ancient
  • 20 - Gnarled
  • 19 - Maki
  • 18 - White Cheddar
  • 17 - Rumble
  • 16 - Combat
  • 15 - Susheese
  • 14 - Glutter
  • 13 - Moon
  • 12 - Radioactive Blue
  • 11 - Super|brie+
  • 10 - Brie
  • 06 - Swiss
  • 02 - Marble
  • 01 - Cheddar

Crafting List

Taken from the source

  • 1: Susheese
  • 2: Glutter Cheese
  • 3: Combat Cheese
  • 4: Master's Seal
  • 5: Rumble Cheese (3 pieces)
  • 6: Rumble Cheese (1 piece)
  • 7: White Cheddar
  • 8: Ambush Trap
  • 9: Dehydration Base
  • 10: Maki
  • 11: Superbrie +
  • 12: Obelisk of Incineration
  • 13: Ancient Cheese (3 pieces)
  • 14: Ancient Cheese (6 pieces)
  • 15: Runic Cheese (1 piece)
  • 16: Runic Cheese (2 pieces)
  • 17: Arcane Capturing Rod Of Never Yielding Mystery
  • 18: Obelisk of Slumber
  • 19: Moon
  • 20: Partybot
  • 21: Mouse DeathBot
  • 50: S.S. Huntington II
  • 51: Unchristened Ship
  • 52: Christened Ship
  • 53: Shell Cheese (15 pieces)
  • 54: Gumbo Cheese (15 pieces)
  • 55: Crunchy Cheese (15 pieces)
  • 56: Harpoon Gun
  •  ? Net Cannon
  • 58: DrillBot
  •  ? Venus Mouse Trap
  •  ? Mutated Venus Mouse Trap
  • 61: Thorned Venus Mouse Trap
  •  ? Thorned Venus Mouse Trap (reconstitution recipe)
  • 63: Horrific Venus Mouse Trap
  • 64: Ancient Spear Gun
  •  ? RhinoBot
  • 66: Magical Blue Pepper Plant
  • 67: Crunchy Green Pepper Plant
  • 68: Creamy Orange Pepper Plant
  • 69: Pungent Purple Pepper Plant
  • 70: Spicy Red Pepper Plant
  • 71: Sweet Yellow Pepper Plant
  • 72: Inferno Pepper Plant
  • 73: Ocean Navigation Kit
  • 74: Spicy Havarti (6 pieces)
  • 75: Pungent Havarti (6 pieces)
  • 76: Creamy Havarti (6 pieces)
  • 77: Magical Havarti (6 pieces)
  • 78: Crunchy Havarti (6 pieces)
  • 79: Sweet Havarti (6 pieces)
  •  ? Ancient Box Trap Blueprints
  •  ? Ancient Box Trap
  • }
  • } tournament bases? (saw spoilers about 3 different ones)
  • }
  •  ? unknown
  • 86: Shell Cheese (20 pieces)
  • 87: Gumbo Cheese (20 pieces)
  • 88: Crunchy Cheese (20 pieces)


  • recipes are assumed to be listed in chronological programming order.
  • suspected recipes (ones I haven't crafted or known about before) marked with ?
  • 4 possible unknown recipes

Region/Location IDs

  • REGION:Gnawnia=1
  • REGION:Burroughs=2
  • REGION:Furoma=3
  • REGION:Bristle Woods=4
  • REGION:Whisker Woods=5
  • REGION:Rodentia=6
  • REGION:Tribal Isles=7


  • Town of Gnawnia=1
  • Meadow=2
  • Harbour=3
  • Mountain=4
  • Laboratory=7
  • Town of Digby=8
  • Mousoleum=9
  • Training Grounds=11
  • Bazaar=13
  • Dojo=14
  • Meditation Room=15
  • Pinnacle Chamber=16
  • Catacombs=17
  • Forbidden Grove=18
  • Acolyte Realm=20
  • Great Gnarled Tree=22
  • Calm Clearing=23
  • Lagoon=24
  • S.S. Huntington II=25
  • Cape Clawed=26
  • Elub Shore=27
  • Nerg Plains=28
  • Derr Dunes=30
  • Jungle of Dread=31
  • Dracano=32